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re: LSU and its commitment to basketball?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:01 am to L S Usetheforce
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:01 am to L S Usetheforce
Ok this is year two, have another really solid class coming in. He inherited very little talent. Give it one more year till we start talking about firing him.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:02 am to bfniii
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his roster is pretty darn good right now. good mix of experience and youth, incredible depth in the front court, martin should be destroying the competition by now. the talent and depth are there for sure. the "roster" is absolutely not the problem
The talent is decent, still lacks shooters and relies on sub 6ft guards. In a year or 2 the talent level we'll be greatly improved.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:02 am to L S Usetheforce
quote:absolutely. jones won cusa twice in 11 seasons, I think. that shows lsu is not committed to putting a winning product on the floor. everyone was fooled because he's a great recruiter but, now we're in year 2 with a respectable roster and 0 tourney wins. in fact, we'll still be at 0 tourney appearances. let's face it, the sec isn't the toughest conference in basketball. there are other coaches who have done more with a lesser roster than what we have right now.
Until we commit that type of money to a basketball coach we will be who we will be.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:03 am to bfniii
Coaches will come if you give them enough incentive......regardless of the current state of the program.....LSU has elite talent in its state, a weak basketball conference, and now premier facilities. ...the only thing missing is the name and plan to go with it.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:05 am to L S Usetheforce
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Coaches will come if you give them enough incentive
Coaches have turned this job down. Johnny Jones wasn't the first choice.
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LSU has elite talent in its state
No, not really.
We need a coach to get us back into the national conversation before we start thinking we can get a coach worth $2.5 million
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:06 am to EarthwormJim
LSU needs a smart hire more than a money hire
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:06 am to EarthwormJim
They turned us down cause we didnt want to pay.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:08 am to L S Usetheforce
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They turned us down cause we didnt want to pay.
Not true, they turned us down because LSU is a rebuilding project.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:09 am to bfniii
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lsu fans have proven that when there is a good product on the floor, they will show up.
Awesome fan base.
I think we are asking a lot of a great coach to come here and build a program around an atmosphere that is terrible for basketball. And I don't think it is necessarily all the fans fault. The AD isn't doing much to draw the fans in. That is true for football as well.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:10 am to lsu711
Louisiana as a whole hates basketball I believe
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:12 am to lsu711
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How can we afford more when we don't fill up the arena and our ticket prices are so low? It all starts with support from the fan base.
LSU can spend whatever it wants. You won't get asses in the seats before they put a quality product on the court. We're one of the wealthiest ADs in the country, nobody is even insinuating that we "can't afford" a big time coach.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:17 am to EarthwormJim
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Not true, they turned us down because LSU is a rebuilding project.
That was part of it. When we had to replace Trent, we had a very late start to the coaching search. Numerous coaching vacancies were filled by the time the search began.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:31 am to PRK
Fans aren't going to show up unless we win. Great coaches and players aren't going to come here (at least at a volume necessary to win consistently) without, among other things, a great atmosphere to play in. If we are recruiting a kid from Texas who goes up to Arkansas and then to LSU on a visit, 9 times out of 10 he is going to Arkansas. Literally 10 students in the stands for games will not get it done. Something will have to give for us to be successful and I don't think it's going to be the top recruits. The fans will have to get behind an average program, fill the arena and the rest will follow. It will never happen.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:37 am to lsu711
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The AD isn't doing much to draw the fans in. That is true for football as well.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:40 am to TJG210
they need to invest in a top flight coach,
As long as lsu keeps hiring the likes of john brady, jj, etc, we will be the nit kings
As long as lsu keeps hiring the likes of john brady, jj, etc, we will be the nit kings
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:41 am to lsu711
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The AD isn't doing much to draw the fans in. That is true for football as well.
Exactly.......those of us who purchase season tickets to either are the biggest suckers of them all. We play shitty non-conference home games in both, and the marquee games are played hundreds, if not thousands of miles away. I can understand playing some big games away in basketball, but absolutely no excuse in football, especially in return all we get is 3 teams who probably won't play in front of 80,000 people combined for their home games.
Next year we essentially have 3 pre-season NFL games, 3 mediocre conference games, and 1 really good game.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:46 am to josh336
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Paying a top notch coach doesnt guarantee success at a job like lsu. With that said, johnny jones has done a remarkable job his first year and a half. Let him get a full roster of his players before we bash him.
We can wait for a full roster but this doesn't excuse undisciplined play and poor free throw shooting. Its a direct reflection on the coach and I think what you see is what you get. Our offense is inexcusable and JJ makes some very poor in-game decisions.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:51 am to josh336
quote:Totally agree! CJJ is only halfway through his second year and has great recruits coming. As disappointed as I am in the last few games, let's not throw him under the bus just quite yet. Now if at the end of year four we haven't seen the improvement, then it might be time to start this discussion.
Paying a top notch coach doesnt guarantee success at a job like lsu. With that said, johnny jones has done a remarkable job his first year and a half. Let him get a full roster of his players before we bash him.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:04 am to L S Usetheforce
I don't understand the lack of commitment. LSU sports are always supported by the fans. When basketball has done well, the fans are always there. I can't imagine the AD is that strapped for cash that they can't go out and get a higher profile coach. Not to mention, there are great athletes in the region as well. Everything is there, except the coach and the desire of the AD to have a top tier program.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:13 am to lsu711
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How can we afford more when we don't fill up the arena and our ticket prices are so low? It all starts with support from the fan base.
Just the opposite. It starts with winning...or at least the way Dale Brown did it when he first took over, real excitement about the program. Eventually, winning brings in fans, who spend money and support the program.
In this case, you need to invest in the program in such a way as to expect much better results and therefor turn the program into a money maker.
Simply blaming fan for not going to watch pitiful basketball since Shaq left the building is no way to get the thing turned around.
Unfortunately, basketball has clearly been an afterthought at LSU for nearly a quarter century. That's too bad, because until Dale let it all fall apart, it was in a position to really step up and be elite.
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