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re: LSU Alumni, dead last in SEC contributions to the school SIAP

Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:47 am to
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:47 am to
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The reason why a lot of LSU graduates do not contribute to the university is the vast majority of them graduate drowning in debt, with no real hope of making more than $35,000, and after a few months they run into those "losers" who never went to college making 4 times what they are making and they are slightly pissed off.


Eh, not really. The majority aren't drowning in debt. We just lack a culture of giving back to the academic side of the school. I really hope Moret can change this.

1. LSU has the fifth-lowest cost of attendance among the 50 flagship institutions nationwide

2. LSU is Number 28 in salaries earned after attending. LSU also comes in at No. 45 in percentage of students carrying debt and No. 41 in the total debt amount carried by students (with No. 50 being students with the least college debt).

3. Among SEC schools, LSU is the second cheapest to attend and sixth in overall salary of graduates.

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Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:50 am to
Is it true or false that this number is skewed because TAF is separate?

I just hit up the Business School so 6%er here

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:56 am to
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This may have a lot to do with people being unsure if donations will be used responsibly.

This.

The Charlie Roberts episode at the LSU Alumni Association highlighted this problem.

Plus, LSU, via TAF, shows its own preferences when it comes to donations. Philanthropic donations made to any non-TAF fund only receive 1/4 credit for Priority Points.

When I donate $500 to TAF I get .5 Priority Points. When I donate $500 to the Alumni Association I receive .125 Priority Points.

I realize we are supposed to give to the non-TAF funds out of a sense of pride and loyalty but if LSU wants to put more emphasis on giving to those funds, it could tweak the TAF Priority Point system to encourage it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40479 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:57 am to
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I realize we are supposed to give to the non-TAF funds out of a sense of pride and loyalty but if LSU wants to put more emphasis on giving to those funds, it could tweak the TAF Priority Point system to encourage it.


Absolutely

seemed for the longest time you didn't get that .125

Then do I give to the foundation or alumni association

seems like there are ton of wings collecting money
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:58 am to
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The reason why a lot of LSU graduates do not contribute to the university is the vast majority of them graduate drowning in debt,
Not so. A significant % of LSU graduates get a free ride on tuition from TOPS.
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:01 am to
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Eta: Alexander creating position to oversee AA, Foundation, & TAF fundraising


He wants his hand in the TAF cooking jar. Typical liberal democrat. He is going to piss of alot of people and destroy the TAF.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:01 am to
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LSU has not contacted me and my friends for anything.


Update your information with them. Make sure it's correct.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:02 am to
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He wants his hand in the TAF cooking jar. Typical liberal democrat. He is going to piss of alot of people and destroy the TAF.


The move to ultimately merge the three organizations was in play long before his arrival.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131150 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:07 am to
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Eta: Alexander creating position to oversee AA, Foundation, & TAF fundraising



He wants his hand in the TAF cooking jar.
How can he use TAF funds for non-athletic purposes? TAF will still have its own board of directors. I seriously doubt he wants to kill LSU's golden goose.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40479 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:07 am to
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quote:
LSU has not contacted me and my friends for anything.


Update your information with them. Make sure it's correct.


or send them 50 bucks

they will spend 100s in mailings to get that next 50
Posted by laftoothdr
lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
414 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:25 am to
Gave faithfully in the beginning. Then started getting donation request from College of Basic Sciences as well as Alumni Association. Too much, so I stopped
Posted by aggiegreen
College Station, TX
Member since Dec 2010
920 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:56 am to
From College Station newspaper today. Very timely.

Texas A&M Foundation raises record $88.2M for flagship university.

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Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:58 am to
Like I said, it's a culture. A&M has that culture. It's very admirable. The alumni believe in the university, what it stands for. There's a source of pride. That's a very difficult culture to start and even harder to maintain. It's admirable what they do there.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10349 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:23 am to
& I believe the new LSU Foundation Building being built across from Tiger Stadium will be the start to establishing a visibility to the importance and prominence of fundraising at LSU. Their strategic plan is being modeled after A&M and Florida.

quote:

"The project is modeled after similar efforts by institutions such as Texas A&M and the University of Florida, Crow said. “[Those are] two examples of very successful fundraising foundations that have their own building that are prominently located on their campuses and that are nearby premier athletic facilities,” Crow said. “They credit that location of a building and having your own space as being an important complement to your efforts to fundraise on behalf of the university.”


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This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:27 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:26 am to
That's cool, but it's more than a building. LSU has great facilities, great staff, etc. That's not enough.
Posted by saminex
Member since Feb 2005
776 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:46 am to
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My son is a freshman at LSU right now. They got rid of reduced tuition for out of state alumni's children a few years ago. I just sent my check for 16K for 1 semester yesterday for his fee bill. I think I'm giving enough to the school.



LMAO, im sure thats what people who pay out the arse at Penn and Harvard say too. GTFO here.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10349 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:49 am to
I totally agree but isn't it a right step? How do you truly establish that deep culture ingrained in lets say Michigan; where as you noted earlier, the alumni believe in the culture and want it to live on causing them to give back.

I don't get it. LSU has plenty of extremely wealthy alumni, I mean shite according to Times Higher Education, we're one of the World's top 100 universities for producing millionaires. Our graduates starting and mid-career salaries are among the best in the SEC too. However, the majority just don't feel obligated to give back to academics.

eta: Times Higher Education Link
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:52 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:01 am to
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I totally agree but isn't it a right step? How do you truly establish that deep culture ingrained in lets say Michigan; where as you noted earlier, the alumni believe in the culture and want it to live on causing them to give back.



It starts at the top. The right leadership has to be there. The legislature, the university president, the wealthy alumni, etc. IT ALL starts at the top.

quote:

I don't get it. LSU has plenty of extremely wealthy alumni, I mean shite according to Times Higher Education, we're one of the World's top 100 universities for producing millionaires. Our graduates starting and mid-career salaries are among the best in the SEC too. However, the majority just don't feel obligated to give back to academics.



It's incredible the difference culture makes. I was taught long ago. Culture trumps everything.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10349 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:02 am to
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:09 am to
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Not the dollar amount. The willingness to donate is what I'm talking about. Why do you think its lacking? I think its obvious, the football program is a product people are tired of.


I think LSU's athletic giving is fairly high. It's academic giving this is referring to. I think TAF has been giving millions and millions to academics. Right?
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