re: LSU a lucky team?

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It fell into our lap. We were very lucky!!

When is the last time you saw a 2 loss team play for a NC?

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especially when there were several other teams that could whip up on tOSU too, but LSU got the opportunity to.

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The reason it seems that LSU is so "lucky" is because we seize every "lucky" opportunity we get.

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Almost every opportunity. I wouldn't count losing to Kentucky and Arkansas last year as capitalizing on a lucky situation.

We certainly blew our chances at Auburn twice in a row (04, 06).

We didn't "luck" out in OT vs. Tennessee in 2005.

Now Arizona State....that game was a good example of what you are talking about....we created scores off of special teams and hit a game winner on 4th down. Oregon State....same deal.

I think some of you are way off base.
The word luck implies that something happened that you didn't mean to happen, or an event that was beneficial to someone where they had no influence. It's not luck if it is what you were trying to do.

I can think of only one instance where luck really did come into play...

1. Pitt beating West Virginia.
We had no control over that game, and it worked out in our favor.

Someone earlier mentioned the OSU roughing the kicker penalty. How was that lucky for LSU? Did anybody call Kentucky lucky when we had 100 yards in penalties? NO!!Those were bone-head plays, and missed oppotunities. The kid from OSU missed the football...That's it.

The five fourth down conversions...
What they did was exactly what they were trying to do. They were trying to pick up the first downs. We simply executed almost flawlessly on that drive. Earlier in that game, we had an 18 play drive, capped by a TD. That wasn't luck either.

My point is, that you can't call a hole in one lucky, because that's what the golfer is trying to do. All the mechanics, wind, spin, clubhead speed, follow-through, etc. came together in perfect harmony, and for once the ball went where it was supposed to go.

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The word luck implies that something happened that you didn't mean to happen, or an event that was beneficial to someone where they had no influence.

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Such as an Offensive lineman stepping on your quarterbacks foot and giving him a high ankle sprain.
On of our best DL getting suspended for the season.
Losing our run stopping DL in the second game of the season.
Having the best DL in the country hobbling around on one leg because a punk chop blocked him.

I believe those events meet your definition of bad luck.

Without those events, IMO, we would have finished 14-0. Maybe we were lucky to get to the championship game given the circumstances, but there was no doubt we were not lucky to win the game against the number one rated team in the country.

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We must have watched different games. By the way, many of their untimely penalties were frustration penalties because they were getting shoved around.

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I don't think it was because they were getting shoved around. Take this sequence in the second quarter, for example:

The score is 10-10 in the second quarter. On the first play of an Ohio State drive, their tailback breaks off 29 yards. In the process he makes an LSU defensive back look silly by slapping him to the turf with a stiffarm. On the second play Ohio State hits on a pass for 19 yards to the LSU 28.

On the next play, Ohio State gets stopped for no gain but the big thing is that the Buckeyes get called for dead ball personal foul. So now it's second and 25.

That was not because Ohio State was frustrated. Why would they be frustrated with the score tied at 10 and they had a nice drive going? It was just a brain dead move by somebody on that team.

Same with the roughing the kicker penalty. That was not because of frustration. That was a punt block call that worked just like it was supposed to except the guy missed the football.

LSU averaged 3.1 yards per rush and got 326 total yards. That's not horrible but it's not "pushing" them around. It was LSU's lowest total offense performance of the season. Ohio State averaged 4.8 yards per rush and averaged 6.3 yards per play to LSU's 4.3. They made more big plays on offense than LSU did.

But they also made a lot more mistakes than LSU did.

I know the old cliches about statistics not meaning anything, lying with statistics, etc. But I also watched the game. LSU did not have a big physical edge. Not at all. Its offense did not push Ohio State's defense around. And you're not smothering the other team's offense when it averages 6.3 yards per play either.

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its a fact.

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facts do not deter rantards from whining about bias or ESPN hating LSU, etc.

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On the final weekend of the 2003 season, LSU needed 7 or 8 specific teams to win. Some teams had to win by a certain margin.

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No, we didn't, and no, they didn't. Margin of victory was already out of the picture.

There were a few teams who could help us by winning. Some did, some didn't. Oregon State didn't. Kansas State did. Syracuse did. Boise State did. The previous week, Alabama and Florida didn't. Out of six teams that could have helped us by winning over the last two weeks, three did and three didn't.

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We backed into the BCS game, its a fact.

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No, the only "fact" is that you don't understand the definition of "backed into" when used in reference to a championship.

For the zillionth time, for the illiterates who don't know what normal everyday terminology means and misuse it all the time, a small glossary:

Backed into: refers to a situation in which a team is playing a game and has a chance to clinch something (a title, etc.) with a win, but LOSES; but still manages to get the title, etc. because another team lost, too. LSU WON THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, and thus DID NOT BACK INTO ANYTHING.

Sour grapes: Contrary to its common misusage by illiterates, does NOT refer to excuse making, but, rather, indicates a situation in which a person does not get what he wanted, then pretends he doesn't want it. For example, saying "USC cheated to get Joe McKnight" is NOT a case of sour grapes, but saying "USC can have him because he's just a corrupt little punk selling himself to the highest bidder and probably has character issues" IS a case of sour grapes.

I'm sure there are many more, but these are a couple that seem to be misused practically every time someone trots them out.

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No, the only "fact" is that you don't understand the definition of "backed into" when used in reference to a championship.

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Is that how Websters defines the term? Otherwise you just made it up to support your argument. We backed into the game by virtue of West Virignia's loss. Its not debateable. If WV had won we wouldn't have been in the BCS.