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re: LSP release Lacy info in reference to Lacy attorney misinformation

Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25232 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

You’re assuming the truck came to a complete stop, which it didn’t. You’re also assuming Lacy was moving towards a stationary object, which he wasn’t.


Im using info from DA report.

Kia was following at 49.6 mph at 0.5s following distance.

Lacy returned to the right lane 92 yards (276 feet) before the scene of the accident. He is very close to a complete stop in the video at the scene of the accident.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

You’re assuming the truck came to a complete stop, which it didn’t. You’re also assuming Lacy was moving towards a stationary object, which he wasn’t.


When you watch the video, the gold truck never fully comes into frame but we can still see the victims car in the impact.

there is only so much room. so either he stopped completely or slowed down a lot.

the LSP video they put out even points out that he “veered” AFTER the collision behind him. You can barely see it and it looks more like he pulled over than “veered”
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25232 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:07 pm to
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You still never answered my previous question. Does that wreck happen if Lacy is no where on that road that day

Does the wreck happen if Kia driver isnt on the road that day? Better question does anyone die if she is on the road yet maintaining proper following distance and everything else plays out exactly the same?
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:09 pm to
I’m not saying it’s impossible. Police officers make these determinations every day as it’s a judgement call per Louisiana law.

What I’m saying is you have zero, none, frick all means to not only establish safe braking distance in those conditions after-the-fact, but to prove said distance was ever violated.


But keep repeating loud noises! Someone here may be stupid enough to be convinced.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Im using info from DA report. Kia was following at 49.6 mph at 0.5s following distance.

Lacy returned to the right lane 92 yards (276 feet) before the scene of the accident.

He is very close to a complete stop in the video at the scene of the accident.


Cool. Your math is still incorrect. The time between two objects moving in opposite directions:

T (time) = Distance/Velocity 1 + Velocity 2.

Using YOUR calculations and assuming the truck is driving 30 MPH ( which is generous to Lacy) and Lacy is driving 70

92/70+30

The time was .92 seconds before they collided.

You’re welcome.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:10 pm to
Muh safe driving distance!!!!
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25232 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

What I’m saying is you have zero, none, frick all means to not only establish safe braking distance in those conditions after-the-fact

Of course we do. She couldnt safely brake or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If you are arguing she was following safe braking distances, why didnt she brake safely?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

What I’m saying is you have zero, none, frick all means to not only establish safe braking distance in those conditions after-the-fact, but to prove said distance was ever violated.


So which is it?

She was following at a safe distance and chose to veer into head on traffic instead of stopping

OR

she was following to close and chose to veer into head on traffic instead of hitting the gold truck?

Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2649 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
See I never said the Kia driver wasn’t at fault, I’ve stated from the beginning that it took the actions of both Lacy and her for the wreck to happen. You are stuck on her being the only person at fault. Does the truck have a reason to brake which causes her to swerve if Lacy isn’t in their lane a few hundred feet away?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:15 pm to
So braking and stopping in your lane is the only appropriate evasive action? Then why wasn’t gold truck ticketed?

Tell us more about being stupid.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2649 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:18 pm to
Let’s ignore the fact that one driver in particular was driving like an absolute maniac. All those pesky other drivers should be aware of that and make the appropriate maneuvers to avoid collisions
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:19 pm to
The fact that she veered left does NOT prove that she didn’t have room to stop. She could have opted to veer for a number of reasons. The cloud of dust and gravel kicked up by the truck… a glimpse of Lacy coming in her lane… not seeing the victims car… not seeing Lacy merge back…bad judgement… shitty eyesight…. I could go on forever if you wish to continue cosplaying a shitty lawyer.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288113 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:20 pm to
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From that point Lacy is able to overcome his 2 traffic violations and slow down and come to a stop before the accident location.



How did you type this with a straight face
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45966 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:20 pm to
It’s scary knowing that idiots like this could end up on juries.

Nothing but emotion.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25232 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:23 pm to
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See I never said the Kia driver wasn’t at fault, I’ve stated from the beginning that it took the actions of both Lacy and her for the wreck to happen. You are stuck on her being the only person at fault. Does the truck have a reason to brake which causes her to swerve if Lacy isn’t in their lane a few hundred feet away?

Lacy absolutely causes the truck to brake.

He does not cause the woman to follow the truck too closely to brake which is what causes the collision.

Think of it like OSHA rules.

Lacy caused the chain to break.

The gold truck triggered the safety mechanism

The Kia driver didnt have the safety mechanism attached which led to a fatality.

We have a system in place where Lacy's actions shouldn't have led to any fatality, the Kia driver ignored that system, instead choosing to tailgate and then swerve into oncoming traffic when her tailgating created a situation she didn't notice/or was incapable of responding to because of her speed/distance.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:24 pm to
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sgallo3


Not even a thank you to me for correcting your shitty math?

That’s kind of rude
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2649 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

We have a system in place where Lacy's actions shouldn't have led to any fatality


You really can’t make this up. So the system is designed for people to drive well over the speed limit and in the wrong lane as long as every single other person on the road has a 10 car gap between them?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Lacy absolutely causes the truck to brake.


So Lacy was the first sequence in a chain of events that lead to a wreck? I’m glad we’ve cleared that up.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25232 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:29 pm to
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So the system is designed for people to drive well over the speed limit and in the wrong lane as long as every single other person on the road has a 10 car gap between them?

No.

The system is set up so that if you are driving behind someone and they brake you can brake without hitting them or leaving your lane.

There are a number of reasons a car in front of you may brake.

Its kinda crazy if your opinion is that every time a truck brakes in front of you you should just hit them and it's their fault for braking (or whatever in front of them caused them to brake)
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:29 pm to
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The fact that she veered left does NOT prove that she didn’t have room to stop. She could have opted to veer for a number of reasons. The cloud of dust and gravel kicked up by the truck… a glimpse of Lacy coming in her lane… not seeing the victims car… not seeing Lacy merge back…bad judgement… shitty eyesight…. I could go on forever if you wish to continue cosplaying a shitty lawyer.


again, she has to make a reasonable move.

Choosing to drive into oncoming traffic if she could stop like the gold truck did isn’t reasonable.

you understand crossing the centerline is inherently dangerous and if you do it and hit someone you have a high burden to justify that action.

This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:31 pm
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