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re: LSP release Lacy info in reference to Lacy attorney misinformation
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:37 am to sgallo3
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:37 am to sgallo3
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sgallo3….
As I stated, Lacey may not be the sole reason for the accident….the car that swerved into on coming traffic certainly played a role in it as well…..but if I’m driving the gold truck, look up and see a car coming at me at over 60mph in a double yellow zone with a posted speed limit or 25 or 35 mph, I’m probably going to hit my brakes also.
Will say though that I’ve been in similar situations before and have always moved to the shoulder while braking.
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:42 am to Chad504boy
“DA never accepted the charges proceeding his death”…. Can’t prosecute a dead person for a crime anyway. All I said was the DA Through her investigation concluded that he was over charged.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:45 am to sgallo3
Allow me to simplify this.
If a driver is violating traffic law in the act of taking evasive action, in many cases that’s not deemed illegal. That is to say, the bar of evidence gets awful high.
The only person involved who doesn’t have a claim to evasive action is Lacy. He consciously and willfully chose to pass illegally, Speed, blah blah blah. There’s also a large preponderance of evidence showing these actions began this chain of events. That is no doubt why his share of responsibility was greater.
And Ory knows this, which is why he’s on AFR and not in a civil court fighting for Kyren’s family.
All of this debate is fun, but people need to be more realistic about how the legal system works, and dispense with bias and emotion.
If a driver is violating traffic law in the act of taking evasive action, in many cases that’s not deemed illegal. That is to say, the bar of evidence gets awful high.
The only person involved who doesn’t have a claim to evasive action is Lacy. He consciously and willfully chose to pass illegally, Speed, blah blah blah. There’s also a large preponderance of evidence showing these actions began this chain of events. That is no doubt why his share of responsibility was greater.
And Ory knows this, which is why he’s on AFR and not in a civil court fighting for Kyren’s family.
All of this debate is fun, but people need to be more realistic about how the legal system works, and dispense with bias and emotion.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:54 am to Calico
Is he saying she didn’t agree with the charges or she declined to proceed after his suicide? Those are different things. Curious about that since Ory walked back his comments about the DA on Monday.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:57 am to Vacherie Saint
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If a driver is violating traffic law in the act of taking evasive action, in many cases that’s not deemed illegal.
It seems she was violating traffic law before she went to take evasive actions. That is why she did not have the ability to brake without leaving her lane or hitting the vehicle in front of her. The forensics expert in the DA report seemed to confirm this.
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Brian Darr is a senior forensic engineer at Quality Forensics. He has worked at reconstructing crashes for 15 years. He said doing so starts with gathering all the facts.
“You have to be very, very careful when you start doing that type of analysis,” he said.
The District Attorney’s office report shows the driver who veered into traffic was following too closely.
“Vehicle 2 was ... tailgating at 49.6 miles an hour, 0.5 seconds behind the gold truck, 1½ seconds before the crash,” Ory said.
At 50mph the car shouldve been maintaining at least 5 car lengths and been at least 1.02 seconds behind the gold truck minimum.
Forensics expert claims crash had multiple factors
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:02 am to SaintlyTiger
My thing is this....iff gold braked hard and swerved, then funyun lady could see the green charger. Why did she swerve into the closer danger?
I'll guess she looked down to grab a funyun and when she looked up all she saw was back bumper. She was so close she couldn't see the closer danger. Like I said before, she did see green charger until after she killed someone.
I'll guess she looked down to grab a funyun and when she looked up all she saw was back bumper. She was so close she couldn't see the closer danger. Like I said before, she did see green charger until after she killed someone.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:03 am to sgallo3
That’s not Louisiana law though. And you have to prove that she was in violation of a subjective statute.
It can’t be done. Why are you trying to convince me? I’m only telling you why it’s a dead end.
It can’t be done. Why are you trying to convince me? I’m only telling you why it’s a dead end.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:05 am to D500MAG
I don’t think she ever saw the victim.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:06 am to Vacherie Saint
Prediction: Funion gal will also be held accountable in civil court if the Hall's decide to go that route
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:13 am to Vacherie Saint
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That’s not Louisiana law though. And you have to prove that she was in violation of a subjective statute.
It can’t be done. Why are you trying to convince me? I’m only telling you why it’s a dead end.
I dont care if she gets convicted or not. Im telling you if she was a more responsible driver a man would still be alive, perhaps 2 (assuming the death she caused is what eventually led to Lacy's suicide)
You can either accept that even if not legally responsible, she still caused a man's death, or you can choose not to. That is your choice.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:14 am to sgallo3
You are assuming a whole lot there.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:17 am to Vacherie Saint
I can guarantee if she was 3 seconds behind the truck and watching the road she wouldve had time to brake without hitting anyone.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:17 am to sgallo3
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I can guarantee if she was 3 seconds behind the truck and watching the road she wouldve had time to brake without hitting anyone.
what can you guarantee me about kyren's driving that day?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:20 am to sgallo3
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assuming the death she caused is what eventually led to Lacy's suicide)
This statement is so ridiculous. You cannot blame anyone but the person pulling the trigger for suicide. She didn’t cause KL to self delete, he chose that on his own rather than fighting in court with his HOF lawyer. Yes a man died, but KL knew he was complicit at the time of the accident. That plus media and public scrutiny caused him to kill himself. You’re blaming the woman in the kia for his suicide, which is whack. He doesn’t do what he did, none of this happens and he’s still alive today as is Mr Hall.
In this case I believe split liability is what will be ruled. Mr Hall will get a nice pay day.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:20 am to Chad504boy
It was bad, but that he didn't kill anyone. He never contacted anyone. He also didn't force the Kia driver to follow at a distance she couldn't stop if the vehicle in front of her did.
Lacy was an aggressively bad driver that day. The woman was a passively bad driver that day.
Lacy was an aggressively bad driver that day. The woman was a passively bad driver that day.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:21 am to PurpNGold1985
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You cannot blame anyone
I dont blame her for his suicide. I simply said the death of the other driver may have led to it.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:23 am to Vacherie Saint
She didn’t agree with the charges… his statement about the DA after his 1st interview was confusing and made it seem like he was walking back comments made about her. So I get why most people think that… but he has from the beginning praised the the DA’s investigation. That’s where he is getting most of not all his info.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:23 am to sgallo3
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He also didn't force the Kia driver to follow at a distance she couldn't stop if the vehicle in front of her did.
Read what you said and ask yourself… WHY did the vehicle in front of her slow.
If your answer is anything but KL being head on in his lane at 20+ mph above the speed limit, you have extreme bias in this case.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:27 am to PurpNGold1985
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WHY did the vehicle in front of her slow.
It doesnt matter if it was Lacy or a deer or the loch ness monster appearing in the road. You are recommended to follow at 3 seconds not 0.5 seconds in case the car in front of you brakes to avoid hitting it. You should always maintain that gap (+1 second per 10mph) whether the car in front of you needs to brake or not.
If she was following that simple rule she would have been able to avoid hitting the gold truck and avoiding swerving into the left lane.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:28 am to sgallo3
That’s not what I’m talking about. You’re exonerating him while ignoring evidence of KLs actions and talking out the other side of your mouth admitting he was in the wrong place like the deer or Bigfoot.
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