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re: Love to hear from Kelly diehards

Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:52 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:52 am to
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It doesn’t matter. It’s regression. For whatever reason, they are statistically regressing.


Sure, but it isn't actual regression.

Similarly, the run game tonight looked much better than it has the past two weeks but I don't believe that was actual improvement, it's just due to a weaker opposing defense.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:54 am to
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What is the cutoff on when you can decide whether someone is a good or bad hire? Please give me an exact number of days. I will hold off my judgement until then.


I feel like two years is a decent sample size. It doesn't really matter what I think though, BK likely already knows if it was a mistake or not.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:56 am to
Its results based regression, which is what matters. Results matter. No two opponents are the same. So if that is your requirement to judge improvement and regression, you are never going to get it.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:58 am to
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BK likely already knows if it was a mistake or not.

Right. Which is probably why he is now more involved in the play calling.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:59 am to
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Right. Which is probably why he is now more involved in the play calling.


From what I read here, no one could really tell a difference.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:04 am to
It doesn’t matter what you read on here. He told you that he was more involved. It’s a fact. He got more involved for a reason. I never said it was more successful once he got involved because it wasn’t.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:08 am to
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It doesn’t matter what you read on here. He told you that he was more involved. It’s a fact. He got more involved for a reason. I never said it was more successful once he got involved because it wasn’t.


I guess we will see once the season ends.

I believe many of the criticisms regarding playcalling to be unfounded and I think it's more of an execution issue.

Hard to be successful when you have a relatively inexperienced quarterback paired with no run game.
Posted by SECCowboy
Member since Jan 2024
112 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:10 am to
Beating up fellow Tiger fans is not a fun thing to do, OP.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6343 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 3:16 am to
Let's be honest, BK has been trying to rebuild this team since Orgeron burnt the bitch down. Worst WR room at LSU in my lifetime, worst RB room at LSU in my lifetime, worst DBs at LSU in my lifetime, and etc. The offense is just dreadful besides Taylor and sometimes Campbell on the line.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7855 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:09 am to
8th where?? None of those guys are major contributors today clown. If you can’t see that we are arse in the secondary, mediocre at lb and thin at DLine idk what to tell u. We don’t have a true #1 wr. OL GCG is weak af. Are we not watching the same games? We also have a head case at qb.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3386 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:11 am to
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It’s always the HC’s fault. Kelly even said it himself “the buck stops with me” I’m not leading the fire Kelly charge because I believe firing him could lead to catastrophe for the program. However, absolving him of the teams performance is ignorance


The most sound, reasonable post I've seen yet.
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1684 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:17 am to
Well we were 6-1 and just beat ole miss not too long ago.

Clearly things have changed.

Congrats you were right. Despite being flawed, deep down you knew we sucked.
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5822 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:40 am to
I dont see how dropping int’s are undisciplined
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42818 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:40 am to
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They have a noticeable pattern. They let the nuclear meltdown clear from people who work for a living and show up at 10 A.M. on Monday morning and pump sunshine for 5 days about the 2025 recruiting class until the next loss.

After Vandy, they'll still be giving the talent excuse and blaming Coach O.



Rich coming from a guy who is still pining for O.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42818 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:42 am to
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offense is just dreadful besides Taylor and sometimes Campbell on the line.



And Anderson and Durham (despite the toes).
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:22 am to
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I believe many of the criticisms regarding playcalling to be unfounded and I think it's more of an execution issue.

Hard to be successful when you have a relatively inexperienced quarterback paired with no run game.

Damn, sounds like the coach needs to get a QB with experience and better players in the run game. So next year will your excuse be that it’s hard to be successful when you have to replace 4/5 offensive linemen? And then the year after, when it’s Underwood’s first year starting you’ll go back to the inexperienced QB excuse?
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2064 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:48 am to
I am a Kelly diehard and I have two words....$70 million.

After
2024-2025: 70
2025-2026: 60
2026-2027: 50
2027-2028: 40
2028-2029: 30
2029-2030: 20.

So I say "Four more years!", "Four more years!".

Jokes apart....

Kelly is the best coach you will be able to hire at LSU. If he cannot fix this....nobody can. You will do worse. It took a special chancellor to hire Nick Saban. Miles was a drop off from Saban.and EdO was falling off a cliff from Miles. Then it took a special AD to hire BK. Whoever you hire after him, will do worse. I would take 10-3,10-4,8-5 any day over 6-6, 6-7.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87640 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:52 am to
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I like the hire to stabilize the program but you don’t do it for 10 years. You wanna overpay, fine but it’s a 5 year deal or in that range at least.


Pretty sure that was all Kelly.

At Kelly’s age, you don’t leave Notre Dame for a 5 year deal. If you’re gonna leave, you’re looking at your retirement gig. That’s what it took to get him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108590 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:54 am to
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I haven't seen anyone make a good case for any particular area where the team has actually regressed.
In the last 10 quarters we have scored 3 total tds,one of which was against bamas third string with 17 seconds left

Earlier in the year we had one of the highest scoring offenses. You really don’t see regression?
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3201 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:56 am to
I am not a Kelly fan I am an LSU fan but I’ll take the bait. If you take the dropped interceptions, the dropped passes, the pic penalty on the TD, Taylor stepping out of bounds, Hilton missing on 2 catchable balls you probably have over 150 additional yds passing and 3 TD’s. At some point players have to make plays. They were in position to do it. That would be coaching. They were running the ball which has been missing last few games. Doesn’t mean Kelly isn’t beyond criticism and may have made a few bad calls but to put it entirely on coaching is wanting to push your narrative. Players need to make plays when put in position and they were. They didn’t.
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