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re: Looks Like Ford is Odd Man Out

Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:38 am to
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:38 am to
Les is a damn good coach and I AM POSITIVE that he knows more about football than I do and has better judgment than I do. However, there is NO DOUBT that he makes mistakes and ALL PEOPLE allow personalities to affect their on the field decisions. He did so with Keiland. Keiland should have played more period. I don't know what's going on with Ford but he is damn talented. Didn't Blue have his carries against weak teams?

This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 9:53 am
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4519 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:44 am to
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So, what's this about him sucking at blitz pickup compared to everyone else? Sounds like the same thing I heard about Keiland Williams, when in reality, Keiland ran with vision-and to daylight-and Larry Porter is one of the worst running backs coaches in America in that respect.


Just as people have made up the "Miles hates speed and loves power" argument around KW and now Ford, there has been a lot of made up excuses about fumbling and game knowledge.

For KW its pretty simple, if you watch the game tape between a great 07VT game and a good senior year, he wasn't good at getting to the next level in the limited carries he got. He couldn't consistently find the hole, elude the first tackler, or break the first tackle. I would assume that similar worries are there about Ford.

But it was never just about fumbles, protection, being a bruiser, or being a speed back. Its just about maximizing whatever your skill set is on EVERY run so that Miles and company feel they can count on you for some amount of yardage every time you touch the ball.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62099 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:44 am to
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Now, as far as the academic issues, send me a link to what you're referencing, or let me know where you've "heard" it from.



You remember Ford playing in the spring game? Neither does anybody else. He had to sit out to "focus on academic." Search yourself, there are likely hundreds of stories on this. But feel free to believe in the "Miles doesn't play the best players due to some unknown bias that goes against his own best interest..." conspiracy.
Posted by PAtiger21
Heaven
Member since Dec 2006
3599 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:45 am to
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Theres no way gore is coming in taking spots along with hilliard. Magee, different story


explain
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35726 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:45 am to
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that's amazing magee number 2.


People on the recruiting board were touting him the whole recruiting process and though he had the potential to be the better than Hilliard and Hill.
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10972 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:46 am to
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Just as people have made up the "Miles hates speed and loves power"


Which holds no water in this case, as Michael Ford is the strongest player on the entire team.

The dude's gonna play. Everyone just relax.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
62099 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:46 am to
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But it was never just about fumbles, protection, being a bruiser, or being a speed back. Its just about maximizing whatever your skill set is on EVERY run so that Miles and company feel they can count on you for some amount of yardage every time you touch the ball.


The amount of people on here whose either bias or lack of intellect prevent them from grasping this is boggling.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18771 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:10 am to
Ford actually started at the scrimmage and got as many carries as Ware. Plus caught 2 passes and dropped one. Not sure where his depth chart came from. Based on Scrimmage hes solid #2 IMO
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4951 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:15 am to
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Might Magee, who was recruited as a quarterback by schools such as Oregon and Mississippi State, hope LSU Coach Les Miles and offensive coordinator Gary Crowton have a few option passes or perhaps Wildcat plays in mind for him?


LINK

I know, Gary Crowton. Old article. Still...
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 9:16 am
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:16 am to
I am for whoever plays---period

Relax Francis, its a long season
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31435 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:21 am to
There's no way he's not one of the 2 or 3 most talented RBs. What is going on that he's the 5th RB at LSU?
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13025 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:23 am to
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What is going on that he's the 5th RB at LSU?


He's not.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69576 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:25 am to
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There's no way he's not one of the 2 or 3 most talented RBs


Talent doesn't always mean playing time. Ware had one great game and all of a sudden is the best back we have. I wonder what he was on depth chart prior to first game last year.
Posted by Dan
Austin
Member since Dec 2006
2463 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:36 am to
Miles did not apply an order to the four backs mentioned. The author of the article took it upon himself to do that.

Glen can even be a douche while quoting someone else's words.

I would agree it is about motivating Ford.
Posted by The Yetty
Member since Feb 2005
12542 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:56 am to
Ford misses blocking assignments regularly, according to Shay Hicks.
Posted by TexasSinger
Front Row
Member since Feb 2006
4521 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:58 am to
The reason Ford isn't being singled out right now is because of his academic standing. Miles does this covertly, albeit not very good, to his players when they aren't applying themselves in the classroom. RS10 went through this already. When Ford earns Miles trust back in the classroom, Ford will be 1b to Ware's 1a. Simple as that.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6306 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:59 am to
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I think Miles does this sort of thing for motivation. I bet Ford plays a lot.


I disagree. The media is not allowed at practice so somebody leaked to the media that I fumbled on the time in practice and that was the reason I never played. This hurt my chances at being drafted and cost me millions of dollars. BTW, I fumbled once in my entire LSU career and I recovered it.

Signed KW

You can blame the KW fiasco on Larry Porter all you want but: FACT 1) he is no longer here, FACT 2) it is happening again to another kid.

Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 10:00 am to
How dare the head coach list the top performing backs based on what they have shown so far and not by what they may be capable of.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94833 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 10:06 am to
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it is happening again to another kid.


No it's not.

Michael Ford was on the field as a RS Freshman and is the solid #2 according to people that have seen practice and saw the scrimmage.

Again, this article is bullshite.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25779 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 10:16 am to
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I think Miles does this sort of thing for motivation. I bet Ford plays a lot.


Yep.

Miles want Ford to focus on academics and work harder on the field. He is too good to leave out of the rotation.
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