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Looks like BK is fixing my biggest complaints about recruiting under Miles and O
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:15 am
Both Miles and Orgeron wer \e great recruiters, but I always had the same two bitches about their recruiting classes:
First, neither recruited elite OL. Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL. Also, while we got some name QBs (mostly in state), we never got the really ELITE national QBS. Kelly is fixing this. His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels. Looks like the second/third classes will be Top-5 AND will have great OL and great QB recruits. Fix #1.
Second, Miles and O did not really get the HUGE early commits for outlying years. Both of them did identify potentially great future recruits and sometimes got them. But they were not as productive as many elite recruiting teams with respect to the "2 to 3 years away but already identified as a 5 star" young men. Kelly seems to have the ball rolling for both present and future years. Fix #2.
All good signs for the future of LSU football.
First, neither recruited elite OL. Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL. Also, while we got some name QBs (mostly in state), we never got the really ELITE national QBS. Kelly is fixing this. His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels. Looks like the second/third classes will be Top-5 AND will have great OL and great QB recruits. Fix #1.
Second, Miles and O did not really get the HUGE early commits for outlying years. Both of them did identify potentially great future recruits and sometimes got them. But they were not as productive as many elite recruiting teams with respect to the "2 to 3 years away but already identified as a 5 star" young men. Kelly seems to have the ball rolling for both present and future years. Fix #2.
All good signs for the future of LSU football.
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:20 am to Buda
I agree with this post, but you have to admit Kelly did get lucky with 2 great homegrown tackles in his first class. nonetheless, luck notwithstanding, he is doing a great job of recruiting the oline. this has always been our weakness. some years we were fortunate to have enough quality guys, but those years didn't seem to roll around often enough.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:24 am to stephendomalley
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I agree with this post, but you have to admit Kelly did get lucky with 2 great homegrown tackles in his first class.
Miles couldn’t lock down those boys his last 5 years here. They started making “business decisions”.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:25 am to stephendomalley
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but you have to admit Kelly did get lucky with 2 great homegrown tackles in his first class.
BK's decision to retain Brad Davis is directly correlated to this
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:32 am to lsudat10
beat me to this...Yep...we have top OL recruits pretty often in the state.
Previous HC's couldn't keep them in LA.
Previous HC's couldn't keep them in LA.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:32 am to stephendomalley
I think CBK is smart enough to market the “luck of homegrown” and sell that to the out of towners moving forward— “see the accolades and press our freshmen are getting? That can be you”
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:33 am to Buda
Kelly always had really good OLs at ND. Skill positions left some to be desired, even if he did get a few good ones here and there like Chase Claypool and Miles Boykin. I'm not sure if it was him or Notre Dame's standards. After all OL are on average smarter and make better grades than skill guys so probably easier to get high end OL than skill players to ND. Could also be that the midwest is better known for OL recruits in general.
Might be another reason he came to LSU after seeing all the WRs and DBs we've put into the NFL. If he can continue to field solid OLs he's always had to complement the bounty of skill guys that Louisiana consistently puts out as well as having a decent pipeline in TX, it fills the missing ingredient that kept him from reaching the mountaintop at ND.
Might be another reason he came to LSU after seeing all the WRs and DBs we've put into the NFL. If he can continue to field solid OLs he's always had to complement the bounty of skill guys that Louisiana consistently puts out as well as having a decent pipeline in TX, it fills the missing ingredient that kept him from reaching the mountaintop at ND.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:34 am to Buda
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His first OL haul was pretty good with two freshman staring and playing at all-SEC levels.
Only pretty good?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:37 am to stephendomalley
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admit Kelly did get lucky with 2 great homegrown tackles in his first class.
You mean the ones that normally went to BAMA in previous years?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:39 am to Buda
I expected BK to improve OL recruitment, but I assumed he’d bring in some corn fed midwesterners. Interesting to see he(and Brad Davis) can get it done with Louisiana kids. Campbell and Jones already look like 2 future first rounders.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:48 am to WaterLink
BK recruited some elite skill guys; only position he never did great with is QB
ND always had mid QBs while he was there.
ND always had mid QBs while he was there.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:56 am to lsudat10
Have to figure with NIL money, staying home is a new business decision.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:16 pm to WaterLink
I may be reaching here, but I could definitely see it being easier to get higher academic Olineman (NDs standards) than skill players
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:18 pm to Buda
The Whitworth, Peterman, Wilkerson, Black, Johnson, Blackwell, Turners of the world make the world go round.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:30 pm to Buda
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Orgeron wer \e great recruiters
O's recruiting abilities were vastly overrated.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:44 pm to Buda
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Under both of those guys, we would have Top-5 or -10 recruiting classes with 6 DBs and 7 WRs, but weak OL.
This always puzzled me given Les being a former OL.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 1:20 pm to LafTiger
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have top OL recruits in the state
But not often enough to allow them to get away
Posted on 11/4/22 at 1:31 pm to Buda
Don't start the Kelly parade too soon...Miles and O have National Championships..Say what you want about them but they won titles.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 3:07 pm to Buda
As 5 star QB Sayin picks Bama over lswho.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 3:20 pm to Buda
Did he recruit Campbell and Jones?
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