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looking back at the 2008 Chick-Fil-A bowl vs Georgia Tech

Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by RaginRed
Ohio
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:15 pm
Funny to look back and see how Jordan Jefferson performed that night as a True Freshmen in a Bowl Game start and the future potential he had. I remember him performing well overall in that game. Re-watching it this morning I didn't realize that he started off that game completing his first 10 passes! Not saying Jefferson was anything terrible but looking back at this game makes me wonder how he never flourished into a better player over the next 3 years. He never really got any better. Obviously Les miles and our lackluster passing attack probably contributed to that. It was a fun game to look back on. I just remember watching that New Years Eve and thinking. Damn, this kid is only a freshmen. He's gonna be damn good hahaha.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2623 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:17 pm to
I think I remember Charles Scott having a game that day. weren’t we up 35-3 at half? pure domination and many said we’d lose going into that one
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:18 pm to
JJ got worse under miles.

freshman year was his best arguably from an ability standpoint.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:27 pm to
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freshman year was his best arguably from an ability standpoint.



his soph year was easily his best and most consistent as a passer, and probably overall. 19 total TDs (17 passing) in 12 games. not great numbers, but I've often said if the 09 passing version of Jefferson shows up in 10 and/ or 11 we probably get another NC.

his 2010 regression as a passer was unlike anything I can remember. dude was just awful.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:40 pm to
That game is what happens when you have a month to prepare for the triple option with better athletes.

Three and outville
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 3:04 pm to
From 09 to 10 he lost Lafell & Richard Dickson. Lafell was so underrated. He was really good at all levels

2010 brought in Tolliver & Randle who both in my opinion were a little too one dimensional vertically for a QB like Jefferson.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 3:11 pm to
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JJ got worse under miles.


Miles was too confusing for QBs and ruined a lot of talent. He didn't have enough of an understanding of the role and didn't want a team overly dependent on that position. Unfortunately, as we saw January 2012, you can't win a game without points, and it's very hard to score points without offense.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34850 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 3:51 pm to
Our offense under Miles for the most part prevented a QBs ability to develop. You put JJ in Urban Meyer system and he’d be a winner.

Miles destroyed QBs while at LSU.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 4:09 pm to
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From 09 to 10 he lost Lafell & Richard Dickson. Lafell was so underrated. He was really good at all levels



agreed to an extent. Dickson wasn't as much of a factor in 09 as he'd been the previous couple years due to injury.

but yeah, Lafell was underrated. he was like the gift and the curse, Lee would lock onto him and I think that's where a lot of his 08 Ints came in. in 09, Lafell was where Jefferson threw most of his TDs by a good margin.

quote:

2010 brought in Tolliver & Randle who both in my opinion were a little too one dimensional vertically for a QB like Jefferson.



Toliver had a lowkey good season in 09, and Randle worked some of the intermediate stuff pretty well. a Toliver/ Randle / Shep trio in 2010 should've done a lot more damage.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 4:13 pm to
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Miles destroyed QBs while at LSU


LOL, You're just being nice, Miles destroyed offense while at LSU.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4690 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 5:51 pm to
If I remember correctly, he successfully completed the pass/pitch/shuttle pass to save a play in the gt game that became the famous fumble play against Alabama in the NC.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40567 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 5:55 pm to
Harris showed promise as a true freshman too, Jennings was going to win 6 Heisman trophies after Arkansas. Then Les ruined every ounce of confidence they had.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9348 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:18 pm to
He was lacking the mental aspect
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
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Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:30 pm to
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I didn't realize that he started off that game completing his first 10 passes!


for a total of 22 yards
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10352 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 3:03 am to
Miles virtually eliminated the crossing routes after Jarrett Lee's interception and pick 6 fest in 2008 as a freshman. After that he only relaxed it some for Mettenberger and relied upon ball control and defense to in. With limited passing options the quarterbacks never fully developed their games.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:42 am to
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Miles virtually eliminated the crossing routes after Jarrett Lee's interception and pick 6 fest in 2008 as a freshman. After that he only relaxed it some for Mettenberger and relied upon ball control and defense to in.
Still Miles responsibility, but other than Flynn, RP and Mett, LSU just didn't have QBs you want throwing over the middle, or anywhere else a whole lot. Even screen passes were WTF moments.
It's not like Jennings and Harris flourished in other offenses, Lee couldn't get a contract and JJ only played arena ball for a short time.
Hindsight, Miles probably should've gave Etling #1 reps in summer 2016 over Cam's boy.
Posted by dash-right-93-berlin
Midway KY
Member since Jan 2006
988 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:07 pm to
That game was Herbie’s “lock” of the bowl season. Said we could stop GT option attack.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29568 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:20 pm to
That was the most excited I had ever been for JJ.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20426 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 1:59 pm to
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quote:

Miles destroyed QBs while at LSU



LOL, You're just being nice, Miles destroyed offense while at LSU.

For those who constantly bitch about what Miles "did" to the offense, THIS is the reason why it happened. THIS GAME.

2005-2007, Miles had a far more aggressive offense than Saban's teams (outside the Rohan Davey team). We'd just finished carving up and beating down Ohio State for a BCS title to close out 2007.

2008 was supposed to be Perilloux, but he got tossed and Lee wasn't ready, to say it nicely. We lost games because of the offense totally blowing shite up in our faces.

This bowl game was supposed to be a beatdown by Ga Tech. They beat UGA 45-42 about a month before and ranked 14, same UGA team we lost 52-38 at home to. The margin of defeat- 2 TDs; Lee threw 2 pick 6's that game.

Miles sent JJ out there with specific orders to not do anything that would risk a turnover, and give the rest of the team a chance. Like someone said, 10-10 passing for 22 yds, that's 2 yds a completion.

So we played a 14th ranked, favored team, and we played solely on physical talent- defense and running the ball. And we kicked their fricking teeth in, 38-3.

From that point forward (with a brief respite under Mettenberger), Miles did as much as he could to keep from throwing games away on offensive mistakes, and relied on physical talent to beat the opponent.
And objectively, it did work- 9-4 in 2009, 11-2 in 2010, 13-1 in 2011 etc.
It didn't work against Alabama, because they matched up (and eventually surpassed us) on talent. But that's the ONLY team in CFB that applied to. Other teams that were supposed to pass us by, like Spurrier's SC team with Clowney and Lattimore, or A&M with Manziel, we still matched up and beat them playing conservative ball.

Not saying it was the right move, because it did ultimately kill our national title hopes. But looking at 2008, you can clearly see the reason why it happened.

Posted by chilge2
Member since Nov 2019
231 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 7:03 pm to
frick Ryan Perrilloux and fricking Gunner Kiel
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