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re: Level headed thoughts about basketball team.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:49 pm to purplengold1
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:49 pm to purplengold1
Spacing is horrible. Picks are lazy. Activity on D will keep us in games but half court O has to improve to make real noise. We will get better. Lots to learn from.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:54 pm to Whodat1
Pinson is in limbo right now. He’s not a true point guard and he’s indecisive kinda like Smart was to begin his soph. year. For now Pinson should be looking to score until they force it out of his hands because he doesn’t see the floor well and the offense stalls with him being hesitant.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:56 pm to Pnels08
They started slow on several games this year. It had to catch up to them evidentially. But they will still put in
a good year and it will be fun to watch.
a good year and it will be fun to watch.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:34 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
quote:he looked ok, but doubt he's savior.
Where has Justice Williams been prior to this game?
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:38 pm to Mayhawman
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he looked ok, but doubt he's savior.
It’s just nice to have another guard. Only having 3 is not ideal.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:44 pm to purplengold1
This is as level as you can get, I’m not even mad.
If you spot a top 10 team 20 points to start the game on the road, with your best play on the bench, you not gonna win a lotta games.
LSU still in good shape tho.
If you spot a top 10 team 20 points to start the game on the road, with your best play on the bench, you not gonna win a lotta games.
LSU still in good shape tho.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:55 pm to purplengold1
Wilkinson 31 min 5 pts 2/3 (1/1) 4 Reb 3 Fouls 1 Turnover
He's never going to give you huge numbers offensively. He's out there for defense. He doesn't hurt you offensively, he doesn't turn the ball over and doesn't jack up bad shots.
Days 34 min 11 pts 4/14 (3/12) 2 Reb 2 Fouls 0 Turnovers
We got bad Days again tonight. Missing 3s badly and just kept throwing them up there. He didn't help us rebound enough either...Especially with Reid in foul trouble and off the court, he's gotta be more present there.
Reid 19 min 2 pts 1/7 (0/0) 2 Reb 4 Fouls 0 Turnovers
Nonexistent. Big white boy absolutely dominated him on both ends of the court. Reid is nowhere near skilled enough yet...he finally ran into somebody who could defend the post a little bit, his little hook wasn't working, and he has no backup options.
Gaines 30 min 6 pts 1/9 (1/7) 5 Reb 0 Fouls 5 Turnovers
We got really bad Gaines tonight as well...Turning the ball over a ton, jacking up 7 3s even though he apparently had missed 22 in a row prior to making his last one...that's terrible.
Pinson 24 min 13 pts 3/11 (0/4) 4 Reb 5 Fouls 6 Turnovers
Had some bad fouls early that got him in trouble and off the court. Turned the ball over way too much for the starting point guard. Early in the game, he was throwing up tons of 3s...when he started attacking in the second half he was very effective.
Fudge 12 min 0 pts 0/1 (0/1) 2 Reb 2 Fouls 2 Turnovers
Nonexistent. Gave us nothing.
Eason 26 min 11 pts 5/12 (0/2) 7 Reb 5 Fouls 2 Turnovers
Not his best night, but he was working hard. Picked up most of his fouls late in desperation time. He was getting mugged and wasn't getting many calls.
Williams 24 min 7 pts 2/6 (1/2) 3 Reb 0 Fouls 1 Turnover
Pleasant surprise. Looked pretty calm for a young guard making his season debut.
Totals 55 pts 18/63 (6/29) 37 Reb 21 Fouls 17 Turnovers
Shooting 28% from the floor is completely unacceptable for a big time team with hopes of making a deep run. You will not win many games that way. 21% from 3 and just continuing to fire them at will early in the shot clock...not good enough. 17 Turnovers is way too much, not to mention that they blocked 12 shots...those 12 shots don't count as missed shots or as turnovers I believe, so that would make our shooting percentage or turnovers much higher, one way or another. Empty possessions. Defensively, played hard, slowed them down in spurts, but had too many bad, cheap fouls. Gave them 26 FTs. Some of those were on soft, iffy calls, but a lot of them were very obvious and bad decisions, hacking away instead of being in position.
Auburn out shot us, our rebounded us, had more steals, more blocks, scored on assists more, and had less fouls. They only stat we won was the turnover battle 17-21.
He's never going to give you huge numbers offensively. He's out there for defense. He doesn't hurt you offensively, he doesn't turn the ball over and doesn't jack up bad shots.
Days 34 min 11 pts 4/14 (3/12) 2 Reb 2 Fouls 0 Turnovers
We got bad Days again tonight. Missing 3s badly and just kept throwing them up there. He didn't help us rebound enough either...Especially with Reid in foul trouble and off the court, he's gotta be more present there.
Reid 19 min 2 pts 1/7 (0/0) 2 Reb 4 Fouls 0 Turnovers
Nonexistent. Big white boy absolutely dominated him on both ends of the court. Reid is nowhere near skilled enough yet...he finally ran into somebody who could defend the post a little bit, his little hook wasn't working, and he has no backup options.
Gaines 30 min 6 pts 1/9 (1/7) 5 Reb 0 Fouls 5 Turnovers
We got really bad Gaines tonight as well...Turning the ball over a ton, jacking up 7 3s even though he apparently had missed 22 in a row prior to making his last one...that's terrible.
Pinson 24 min 13 pts 3/11 (0/4) 4 Reb 5 Fouls 6 Turnovers
Had some bad fouls early that got him in trouble and off the court. Turned the ball over way too much for the starting point guard. Early in the game, he was throwing up tons of 3s...when he started attacking in the second half he was very effective.
Fudge 12 min 0 pts 0/1 (0/1) 2 Reb 2 Fouls 2 Turnovers
Nonexistent. Gave us nothing.
Eason 26 min 11 pts 5/12 (0/2) 7 Reb 5 Fouls 2 Turnovers
Not his best night, but he was working hard. Picked up most of his fouls late in desperation time. He was getting mugged and wasn't getting many calls.
Williams 24 min 7 pts 2/6 (1/2) 3 Reb 0 Fouls 1 Turnover
Pleasant surprise. Looked pretty calm for a young guard making his season debut.
Totals 55 pts 18/63 (6/29) 37 Reb 21 Fouls 17 Turnovers
Shooting 28% from the floor is completely unacceptable for a big time team with hopes of making a deep run. You will not win many games that way. 21% from 3 and just continuing to fire them at will early in the shot clock...not good enough. 17 Turnovers is way too much, not to mention that they blocked 12 shots...those 12 shots don't count as missed shots or as turnovers I believe, so that would make our shooting percentage or turnovers much higher, one way or another. Empty possessions. Defensively, played hard, slowed them down in spurts, but had too many bad, cheap fouls. Gave them 26 FTs. Some of those were on soft, iffy calls, but a lot of them were very obvious and bad decisions, hacking away instead of being in position.
Auburn out shot us, our rebounded us, had more steals, more blocks, scored on assists more, and had less fouls. They only stat we won was the turnover battle 17-21.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:59 pm to Madking
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Pinson is in limbo right now. He’s not a true point guard and he’s indecisive kinda like Smart was to begin his soph. year. For now Pinson should be looking to score until they force it out of his hands because he doesn’t see the floor well and the offense stalls with him being hesitant.
This is a sad day for a Pinson truther like yourself
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:59 pm to purplengold1
1. It is not the end of the season. A loss here was expected, though LSU being thoroughly out-executed was tough to watch.
2. In part, this is on Wade. LSU was shell-shocked early with the atmosphere and and huge step up in talent. I know Wade is big into the analytics and I have defended him vigorously with his scheduling. But the fact LSU didn’t play a single road game nor a team even remotely close to SEC talent really left them woefully unprepared for tonight, and it showed.
3. The effort was there. The defense (mostly) was there. But this team is only going to go as far as their guard play takes them. I know Murray was out, but he wouldn’t have made THAT much of a difference. This is the weakest group of guards Wade has had LSU. They MUST get better…soon.
The good news is that may be the toughest game LSU plays all year. I thought before the game Auburn was the best team in the league and they didn’t nothing tonight to disprove that. Now LSU has experienced facing a really good team. They’ve experienced a tough road atmosphere. They’ve experienced getting their arse kicked. Now they have to bounce back with two at home
2. In part, this is on Wade. LSU was shell-shocked early with the atmosphere and and huge step up in talent. I know Wade is big into the analytics and I have defended him vigorously with his scheduling. But the fact LSU didn’t play a single road game nor a team even remotely close to SEC talent really left them woefully unprepared for tonight, and it showed.
3. The effort was there. The defense (mostly) was there. But this team is only going to go as far as their guard play takes them. I know Murray was out, but he wouldn’t have made THAT much of a difference. This is the weakest group of guards Wade has had LSU. They MUST get better…soon.
The good news is that may be the toughest game LSU plays all year. I thought before the game Auburn was the best team in the league and they didn’t nothing tonight to disprove that. Now LSU has experienced facing a really good team. They’ve experienced a tough road atmosphere. They’ve experienced getting their arse kicked. Now they have to bounce back with two at home
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:09 pm to Pnels08
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If they eliminate the holy f*** what are you doing turnovers the offense will be fine.
No. You won’t be anything shooting 28%. It’s been a problem all year yet all I heard about was how great this offense was and that we were averaging over 80ppg.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:26 pm to JWill409
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I heard about was how great this offense was and that we were averaging over 80ppg
I have heard very few people call this offense great. I’m sure some were cautiously optimistic that the shooting woes would improve but I cannot recall anyone calling this offense great.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:34 pm to JWill409
If they eliminate the turnovers on fast breaks they'd get easier shots is my theory
Thus upping their fg%
Thus upping their fg%
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:43 pm to Lester Earl
Pinson looked good on a couple penetrations then abandoned it and jacked up a 3 that wasn't even close. I agree, the guard play is suspect right now.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:45 pm to des4271
Days has become strictly a 3 point shooter this season. He’s always been a good shooter but not sure why he has shrunk his game so much
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:48 pm to Lester Earl
Everything you said about Pinson turned out to be wrong so now you root against him like you do with LSU players you’re wrong about every season. You’re not an LSU fan you’re just a pathetic little attention whore.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:53 pm to DiamondDog
Days is a decent spot up shooter and could benefit a lot from the screen game but WW's offense isn't predicated on creating "open" shots for guys.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:02 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
The plan was to redshirt him because he is a HS senior age/experience wise.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:27 am to purplengold1
I agree with all of this and that the world won't end. Defensively I think we still showed we are legit there, gotta find a way to generate offense. Kessler really stifled us and we won't see his like again as far as a disruptive shot blocker.
The one thing I thought separated the game was second chance points. Don't know what the final stat was but seemed like they crushed us there. Several good defensive stands where we let them outfight us for boards and score after that.
The one thing I thought separated the game was second chance points. Don't know what the final stat was but seemed like they crushed us there. Several good defensive stands where we let them outfight us for boards and score after that.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:31 am to bayoubengals88
2 areas of concern: Gaines cant shoot so this will hurt the team’s progress and next overall a poor outside shooting team! If we do t score at rim we will likely lose to better teams! Need Miller back!!
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:59 am to purplengold1
They didn't quit, which is always a good thing. Still will win a lot of games, just not elite yet.
Still an improved team over last year.
Still an improved team over last year.
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