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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:03 pm to VUfan
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Lol @ Rocker and Leiter paying college tuition.
Believe what you want but they pay more to be at Vandy than they would to be at any other SEC school.
LOL
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:09 pm to VUfan
Rocker ain't paying shite to go to Vandy
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:23 pm to VUfan
Do they not teach paragraphs at Vandy?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:30 pm to OKtiger
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LMAO no one is reading that diarrhea you just posted
I read it….
But I think he may have a couple misunderstandings abt that program. The adjustments in tuition and everything he said is true; but Rocker and Leiter and any other future or past big name recruit; is not paying to play at Vandy. The reason that opportunity vandy program is an advantage is bc they can stack that program on top of the 11.7 schollys.
So if a recruit is wanting to come to vandy but they don’t have any scholly moeny left from the 11.7; then they just “adjust” the tuition to a super low amount; that the “family” (aka bagman) can afford.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:34 pm to SaDub225
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if a recruit is wanting to come to vandy but they don’t have any scholly moeny left from the 11.7; then they just “adjust” the tuition to a super low amount; that the “family” (aka bagman) can afford.
doesn't seem right but what do I know?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:39 pm to VUfan
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I tried. I guess we just have unlimited scholarships then. Everyone gets full rides. You guys can believe what you want to believe, but that still doesn’t make it the truth. Go Dores. Nothing sucks like a big orange.
I think you’re a little mistaken about the opportunity vandy program in regards to how Vandy turns it into an advantage for baseball and “bypassing” the 11.7….. the 11.7 money can be distributed in a way to certain players/recruits that then can be stacked with the OV program. Meaning like for example let’s just say Vandy gives every baseball player X amount for tuition and that comes from the 11.7… then the kids that they want real bad they say “hey, with this OV program, and the X amount we already will give you; we can then “adjust” your tuition to Y amount.” And usually Y is a super low amount (free) that then allows the kids to not have to worry abt tuition or anything if they choose Vandy. Where as if they went to a different school, they or their family would have to get student loans or find grants; etc, bc said school didn’t have enough money from the 11.7 to fully cover tuition cost.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:41 pm to 777Tiger
Lol yeah I was kind of just kidding in regards to the bagman joke. But the adjustment with that opportunity vandy program is how they do it; and why vandy has an advantage over some schools. Espn did a whole show about it; you guys didn’t see it? Lsu has something similar with TOPS but that is only for in state kids.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:45 pm to VUfan
Look it's a Vandy fan trying to make sure nobody closes the loopholes that give their program a major advantage.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:54 pm to VUfan
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Lol @ Rocker and Leiter paying college tuition.
Believe what you want but they pay more to be at Vandy than they would to be at any other SEC school.
Are you telling us that Rocker and Leiter aren’t on full scholarships? Is that what you are trying to tell us?? What in the actual frick is your malfunction numb nuts???
Edit... Are there not full scholarships for college baseball? And if there aren’t then there is no fricking way that boosters aren’t paying the remainder
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:38 pm to VUfan
What Vandy does is basically what most private schools with large endowments do. My daughter went to a top 15 university and basically paid only room and board. A friend of my son went to Vanderbilt for $5000/yr. I know a football player that went to an Ivy League school for $8000/yr - he got a great deal, but it wasn’t much different than those who weren’t athletes.
Had the two non-athletes been baseball players it wouldn’t have even added up to one scholarship between the two of them to pay for their school. Probably less than half a scholarship.
The truth is, it is quite inexpensive to send your kids to “expensive” private schools. I Ben for non-athletes. Cheaper than a lot of state schools. You just have to get accepted- that is the hard part. This is what most people don’t realize - how cheap an “expensive” education can be.
Had the two non-athletes been baseball players it wouldn’t have even added up to one scholarship between the two of them to pay for their school. Probably less than half a scholarship.
The truth is, it is quite inexpensive to send your kids to “expensive” private schools. I Ben for non-athletes. Cheaper than a lot of state schools. You just have to get accepted- that is the hard part. This is what most people don’t realize - how cheap an “expensive” education can be.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:51 pm to ChEgrad
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What Vandy does is basically what most private schools with large endowments do. My daughter went to a top 15 university and basically paid only room and board. A friend of my son went to Vanderbilt for $5000/yr. I know a football player that went to an Ivy League school for $8000/yr - he got a great deal, but it wasn’t much different than those who weren’t athletes.
Had the two non-athletes been baseball players it wouldn’t have even added up to one scholarship between the two of them to pay for their school. Probably less than half a scholarship.
The truth is, it is quite inexpensive to send your kids to “expensive” private schools. I Ben for non-athletes. Cheaper than a lot of state schools. You just have to get accepted- that is the hard part. This is what most people don’t realize - how cheap an “expensive” education can be.
State schools are starting to do it as well. Like I said, Michigan does the exact same thing. For those of you that care, I apologize for my horrible paragraph structure. I dropped out of Tennessee Tech after 2 years so I’m not as educated as many of you fine Cajun people are. Having spent a lot of time in Louisiana, especially south of I-10, I understand the complexity of your language skills.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:56 pm to VUfan
quote:And you’re still wrong.
Like I said, Michigan does the exact same thing.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:25 pm to VUfan
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I’m a Vandy fan and as a Vandy fan I see all sorts of misinformation about our “unlimited” scholarships. This is a widely read SEC baseball message board so I figured I could talk about this here and maybe begin to correct some of the misunderstandings.
There are a lot of misunderstandings on this board about the subject. Many posters believe that all private schools have an advantage in baseball recruiting. Quite the opposite actually
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:30 pm to D011ahbi11
I don’t see anyone who has claimed this is an advantage for other private schools. The program mentioned is specific to Vandy.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:33 pm to TigerAlumni2010
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The 11.7 number for baseball scholarship is added into the Opportunity Vandy scholarship so they in reality can make up for the discrepancies caused by that limitation.
Nope. Most of y’all don’t know the rules. You can’t combine need based financial aid with baseball scholarship money per NCAA rules.
Direct quote From Travis Jewett former Vandy recruiting coordinator
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The NCAA allows institutions to package academics and baseball, so you can have one or the other or you can have both, but what you can't do, and what everybody's frustration is, you can't couple financial aid with baseball. That's the NCAA tango with those two things
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:34 pm to ell_13
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ell_13
I don’t see anyone who has claimed this is an advantage for other private schools. The program mentioned is specific to Vandy.
Not in this thread but I saw in threads discussing Schloss coming to LSU, a few people said that he might not be able to recruit without the advantages of his private school
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Here’s a guy saying Tulane has the same advantage LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:40 pm to D011ahbi11
TCU was investing in baseball recently. Their player facilities were recently completely renovated. Not sure what scholarship help they offer though. Tulane doesn’t do much if at all.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:40 pm to ell_13
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When a freshman comes in and lives by himself for a year and is no longer considered a dependent, he has no incomes and gets a full scholarship through OV for the rest of his career. All 11.7 are used on freshman.
That’s the loophole.
If they’re really doing that(I don’t believe they are) they should never have years like 2012 or 2017 where they’re 35-28 and 36-25-1
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