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re: Let's talk about Nuss...
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:54 am to GhostofJackson
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:54 am to GhostofJackson
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Cant tell if you are serious or not.
Sadly, I think he is.
Of course, it could be the Busch Light talking.
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:55 am to jptiger2009
Yeah, lima charlie coach.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:22 am to BigBrod81
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I like Nuss but no he's not better than JD5. STFU idiot.
Of course he isn't.
Nuss, first year as a starter.
JD5, fifth year as a starter. with two first round WR who both came into the league and dominated their first season.
There have been very few, if any, QBs who went into the league and dominated as Joe and Jayden have.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:15 pm to jptiger2009
I'm not comparing the 2, but y'all said and hoped for Bobby Hebert's son-in-law would be great, too.
Nuss makes a lot of mental errors, and I think some of it is linked to his immaturity.
His daddy trained him very well, but that can only take you so far.
1. I hope I'm as wrong as many of you say I am.
2. The INTs this season have come in very bad situations (i.e. the endzone interception v/s Bama down 21-6).
Don't get me wrong here. I like a lot about Nuss, but y'all are acting like he's perfect are pathetic. Like really.
He has to fix a lot. Just look at BK's face after that very inept INT v/s Baylor. Kelly gets very frustrated at the mental lapses of his star QB.
Very simply, Burrow nor Daniels had such mental lapses. They had poor games too, especially in their Junior seasons (to make yall happy), but my hope is that Nuss can grow as much as our 2 Heisman Trophy winners did. I'm very hopeful, but I have my doubts because a lot of the lapses in judgement have continued.
More than anything, I think that Nuss lacks the composure (showed great composure v/s Ole Miss) that Burrow and Daniels had. I hope he turns the corner and proves me completely wrong.
Nuss makes a lot of mental errors, and I think some of it is linked to his immaturity.
His daddy trained him very well, but that can only take you so far.
1. I hope I'm as wrong as many of you say I am.
2. The INTs this season have come in very bad situations (i.e. the endzone interception v/s Bama down 21-6).
Don't get me wrong here. I like a lot about Nuss, but y'all are acting like he's perfect are pathetic. Like really.
He has to fix a lot. Just look at BK's face after that very inept INT v/s Baylor. Kelly gets very frustrated at the mental lapses of his star QB.
Very simply, Burrow nor Daniels had such mental lapses. They had poor games too, especially in their Junior seasons (to make yall happy), but my hope is that Nuss can grow as much as our 2 Heisman Trophy winners did. I'm very hopeful, but I have my doubts because a lot of the lapses in judgement have continued.
More than anything, I think that Nuss lacks the composure (showed great composure v/s Ole Miss) that Burrow and Daniels had. I hope he turns the corner and proves me completely wrong.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:26 pm to jptiger2009
You just typed a bunch of nonsense jibberish only to say that you know nothing about QB evaluation.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 3:31 pm to BigBrod81
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You just typed a bunch of nonsense jibberish only to say that you know nothing about QB evaluation.
Every board he posts, same crap.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 4:58 pm to BigBrod81
You just love that nussy. Can't do no wrong
Posted on 1/1/25 at 5:02 pm to jptiger2009
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His completion percentage is shite.
If I were listing my concerns about Nuss, this would not be in the top 5.
He has the physical tools. The decision making IMHO on several levels from who to throw to, to what play to check into, to when to run or not, etc. etc. is what I think need to improve for him to be as good as he can be.
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt that a full year of experience makes him a better at all these things and a better QB next year.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:45 pm to jptiger2009
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You just love that nussy
I can see along with many others the positives that he brings with him.
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Can't do no wrong
No one is saying Nuss doesn't have things to work on. Too bad your points were ignorant & not well thought out or broken down.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:10 am to BigBrod81
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Too bad your points were ignorant & not well thought out or broken down.
No man, your points (don't even recall what they were) weren't broken down or valid.
My OP proves that this board reads what they want. I pointed out obvious voids in Nuss's game. I've also pointed out that I hope I'm wrong.
Yall need to wise up and understand the differences.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:19 am to jptiger2009
Let's talk about stupid...
Oh hey how ya doing?
Oh hey how ya doing?
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:24 am to BayouBaw84
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He's a better QB than JD5 by a lot.
NO HE IS NOT
Ya'll sound stupid saying this shite. He has potential but still makes 1-2 (sometimes 3 or more) really brain-dead decisions per game. Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:26 am to jptiger2009
Shut the Frick Up
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:29 am to BiggaGeauxrilla
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Name a better Qb next season
Cade Klubnik, our opening game opposing QB next year.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:37 am to jptiger2009
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I do feel like he's emotionally immature. The night-night flex after a first down late in the 4th was much too soon. JD5 nor Joe would never.
Translation: get off my lawn.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:47 am to lsufball19
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he completed 65% of his passes this season...
obviously horrendous!
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:50 am to Schmelly
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Nuss is a good college QB as o today with some obvious flaws. He may even be better as a junior than Jayden was as a junior. But There’s not a got dam thing Nuss does better on a football field, NOTHING, than the end version of JD5. ZEE-ROE
This is the truth. Like Daniels in 22, you can see the talent, but there are some flaws and limitations that still need to be worked on. We just need Nuss to take a step forward this offseason and early next season. I don’t believe he will be capable of making the leap that Daniels did, but if the running game and defense improve, then we can make up the difference.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Just think what his numbers would've been of the defense gave him a few more possessions or could get off the field on 3rd down.
Probably the same or maybe even less because LSU likely would have tried to play more complementary football. The offense last year was balls to the wall as much out of necessity as ability. They had ZERO confidence the defense could get stops, so game management and controlling the ball wasn't a high priority. The approach was essentially score every time as fast/often as you could because the defense was going to give up quick scores when they got on the field.
As for Nuss this year, he's not Daniels, so everyone being angry about his lack of desire to run is misplaced. But that doesn't mean he can't be a great college QB. I suspect if you went back and searched threads the day after the Citrus Bowl vs. Purdue (where Nuss played significant snaps) you would have a LOT of fans wanting him to be the starter in 2023...not Daniels. Of course, Daniels further developed in that offseason and went from a solid, but not spectacular QB to the best player in college football.
Nuss had some bad moments this year. No one should argue otherwise. But there was a LOT more good than bad, and when compared to Burrow's and Daniels' first years as LSU starters Nuss has a MUCH higher starting point from year one to improve upon in year two.
Despite the optimism that always prevails in the offseason, this was NEVER going to be a championship caliber team. There were simply too many holes and new personnel/coaching changes. Next year is different. It's more akin to 2023 where more pieces looked to be in place to make a real run. BK knows he wasted an opportunity in 2023. At 63 years old he knows his years of coaching are running out and this year is maybe one of the last real opportunities he could to reach the top of the mountain. It's "all in" time now.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:16 pm to Alt26
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Probably the same or maybe even less because LSU likely would have tried to play more complementary football. The offense last year was balls to the wall as much out of necessity as ability.
Except you play more ball controlled WHEN you have a bad defense. You want to keep their offense off the field and give your defense time to get with coaches and see what the other team is doing. A score fast offense hurts a bad defense.
And 90 % of the time a team is ball controlled is out of necessity. Teams that can get huge chucnks of yards,do so.
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Nuss had some bad moments this year. No one should argue otherwise. But there was a LOT more good than bad
Oh I agree .. I was just responding to a poster that said he was better than JD. I have no doubt that Nuss will put in the work and and get better. All in all he had a damn fine seasons.
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Despite the optimism that always prevails in the offseason, this was NEVER going to be a championship caliber team
Agreed... I said it before the season when we were top 10. No way we replace both coordinators, a Heisman qb ,(2) 1st rd wrs (97% of our previous year's offensive production) and contend for a title.
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BK knows he wasted an opportunity in 2023.
There was no way were winning a title in year 2 after the attrition from O' last 3 classes. All our good players on defense were true freshman or sophomores.
Next year is the only year I'd say we have the defensive talent to compete for a title.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:46 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There was no way were winning a title in year 2 after the attrition from O' last 3 classes. All our good players on defense were true freshman or sophomores.
In a vacuum I would agree...but no one could have predicted the offense would be that dominant. I know this is sacrilege, but there were times last season the offense was more unstoppable than 2019. Daniels was an absolute nightmare to defend. The DC could make the perfect call. The defenders execute it exactly as called...and Daniels could make one guy miss and turn the perfect defensive call into a 40 yard gain. Time and time again.
Even with the attrition from 2022 there was no reason to think the 2023 would be THAT bad, and with how good the offense was a defense only moderately better than awful was all that was needed to compete for a championship.
I like Nuss and think he can be really good. But Kelly knows Daniels was the best QB he's ever coached and likely the best QB he will ever coach. He knows he failed to fully reach the team potential with once in a (coaching) lifetime player. Now, he gets a really good 5th year senior QB again. Something that may not happen again in his LSU tenure. I think what you are seeing in the transfer market is him showing you he's going to do everything possible to maximize the opportunity
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