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re: Let's discuss expectations for the rest of the year and 2018
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:28 pm to LSUminati
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:28 pm to LSUminati
Really I think next week's game vs Troy will be the only likely victory remaining. I don't see the Tigers beating any of their SEC brethren, even less than stellar opponents like Ole Miss, A&M and Arkansas. Unfortunately Missouri's not on the schedule this year.
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Next year's starting running back is a senior in high school right now.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:32 pm to memphis tiger
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But nobody thought much of those guys when those seasons started.
Disagree. If you followed LSU football and recruiting closely back then, you knew that Addai was a stud. Ridley was as well, but there was a question of his high school competition level. Hester, sure, you got me.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
I strangely agree with you on all your points.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why the hate for Donte Jackson? He rarely gets thrown at because teams are scared of him
Definitely think WR and DL improve next year with Giles, Shelvin, and fehoko , hopefully Marshall, and Chase plus experience from this year for young guys
And moss at TE should help passing game also
Definitely think WR and DL improve next year with Giles, Shelvin, and fehoko , hopefully Marshall, and Chase plus experience from this year for young guys
And moss at TE should help passing game also
Posted on 9/24/17 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Lee, JJ, and Harris were all negatively affected by being thrown into the fire too early
Lol, no they weren't.
Jefferson as a true sophomore with by far the worst OL and rush offense I've ever seen at LSU, (I've only been watching CFB and LSU the past 13 years) had 17 passing TDs. Since 2000, that puts him behind only Russell, Mauck, Davey, Flynn, and Mett who all five only had more than 15 passing TDs in one year of their career. He completed 61% of his passes, ran for another 170 and a TD, and was the #2 QB IN THE COUNTRY, in the redzone behind only Boise State's Matt Moore. Based on the 2-3 long dropped would be TD passes vs Penn St and being knocked out in the second half of Bama and not playing at all vs La Tech, he should have racked up at least 400 more yards and 4-5 more TDs.
No, Les Miles turned him into an option QB and he regressed significantly as a junior.
Lee was a gunslinger and that is what prompted a lot of forced passes that turned into pic 6s and tons of ints. By his senior year he was a decent enough game manager to guide us until we actually played a defense with a pulse (well Bama was like going against a Titan). He and Etling are similar in the fact that they need perfect pockets to do anything. Any hint of a pass rush and they start running backwards, and Lee had that terrible trait of throwing off his backfoot when he felt pressure.
Harris also wasn't negativity affected by playing early. I think he was more affected by the fact that he was benched after only a half and only got like two more pass attempts the entire season of awful pass offense. Statistically his 2015 and Etlings 2016 seasons were damn near the same except he actually threw 3 TD passes vs UF and Bama while Etling didn't throw one. He also provided us with a running option at QB, something I think is greatly needed for any team trying to win a national championship in these modern times.
More than anything I think they were affected by Miles being a complete joke on QB prep, and the way he ran his antiquated offense.
With how bad this OL is, and Brennan's strengths, we should be in shotgun 3-4 wide and run an uptempo quick passing game. RB and WR screens, quick slants, RPOs, read option, etc. If people think Petrino played Lamar Jackson the same way as say Ryan Mallett or Tyler Wilson, you're nuts! A pro style HC/OC went straight up spread/option with LJ as a true freshman.
Brennan can be molded after he gets experience, put him in something he knows how to run.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 9/24/17 at 3:44 pm to Datbayoubengal
Absolutely. There is nothing wrong with running the spread if the personnel calls for it
Posted on 9/24/17 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
2017? The best would be win 10 games.
It would suck to win only 7 or less.
2018: I expect the JUCOs to fix the OL and LSU to compete for the playoffs
ETA: its sad this program has gone from fix and go to full on rebuilding
It would suck to win only 7 or less.
2018: I expect the JUCOs to fix the OL and LSU to compete for the playoffs
ETA: its sad this program has gone from fix and go to full on rebuilding
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 9/24/17 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
7-5 or 6-6 looking likely but just got to hope they can help ruin one or two others teams season by playing the spoiler. Really hoping they can find a way to beat Florida bc I cannot stand butter tooth and keep the streak over the Ags. They also need to stop planning the schedule with a bye before the Bama game and use it another time for a competitive game they could actually win.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:51 pm to SamuelClemens
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2017? The best would be win 10 games.
It would suck to win only 7 or less.
2018: I expect the JUCOs to fix the OL and LSU to compete for the playoffs
ETA: its sad this program has gone from fix and go to full on rebuilding
I expected LSU to be 8-4/9-3 this year. I posted time and time again on the reasons why. OL was mediocre and had no depth, DL had no experienced depth and our "best" returning player was Lacouture. WRs outside of Chark had little to no experience at all, and there is a huge drop off in talent after Guice at RB. The only things I was confident about were Guice, Chark, Davis, and the LB spot.
My guess is that LSU will improve significantly on defense by the Bama game, and if Ed 0 has any kind of sense, he'd start Brennan after our next loss (which should be coming in a couple weeks).
This could be like 2014 when the OL took half the year to learn the scheme.
2018 will have the defense back to form and the OL will have some experience. Problem will still be on offense though.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:We sure could use Travis Etienne right now.
3. our RB position is very murky moving forward. Guice is hurt and Williams is serviceable, but both are gone after this year. our cupboard looks pretty barren for 2018. that's going to hurt us next year i'd imagine, especially since we'll be breaking in a true sophomore QB
Did anybody see him Saturday for Clemson? 9 carries-112 yards.
Huge loss.
Good riddance to Craig and Juluke for not being able to reel in a top running back from right up the road in Jennings.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:45 am to Datbayoubengal
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More than anything I think they were affected by Miles being a complete joke on QB prep, and the way he ran his antiquated offense
Miles had 3 QBs start in the NFL. 4 of the top 10 seasons by a QB in LSU history. Can't be that bad. I just think LA lacks talent at that position because of how the HS play. Going out of state to nab QBs wasn't a strong suit.
Rp would have kicked arse in crowtowns offense. They tried to make JJ into a rp. That was a mistake.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:49 am to semjase
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Good riddance to Craig and Juluke for not being able to reel in a top running back from right up the road in Jennings.
What about the recruiting coordinator that is one of them? Shouldn't he shoulder some of that blame?
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 5:50 am
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:42 am to SlowFlowPro
0-8 in SEC this year, new AD and coach next year...
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:06 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree with all of your points. OL it terrible and will probably take two years to fix. Probably need to cut bait with Grimes. Running back can be fixed if we land the right recruit. I think 7-5 with this team would be pretty good accomplishment.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:29 pm to dgnx6
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Miles had 3 QBs start in the NFL. 4 of the top 10 seasons by a QB in LSU history. Can't be that bad. I just think LA lacks talent at that position because of how the HS play. Going out of state to nab QBs wasn't a strong suit.
Russell, Flynn, Mett. You know what those guys have in common? None were recruited out of high school by Miles, and none spent their first two developmental years with Miles. Miles was cancer to any QB he grabbed from high school. We'll never know what Perriloux could have done at LSU, but if think about it, he never did anything spectacular even at the small school he went to after nor did he do much of anything in the NFL.
Look, I know you were a special kind of Miles supporter (the extreme kind), but get serious. He got guys out of California, Georgia, and Texas (states known for their QB play), and all of them stunk it up or barely played at all. These were 4 star elite 11 regional guys.
That being our worst position for most of a decade, we decided to go back to the well when Ed 0's dumbass got a coach that has never coached up a QB from high school. LSU is perpetually fricked in this area because admins and LSU head coaches are completely too stupid to realize that QB is by far the most important position on the field.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:35 pm to BeeFense5
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O shouldn't have run off 30 offensive lineman
sometimes you have to suffer some bad for the ultimate good do what whats right for the program.
some punks had to go.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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4. our secondary seems to have issues but is still strong moving forward. i don't rate KT very well and DJ has issues, but greedy still looks awesome. our Ss are stocked. hopefully DJ stays, takes a step next year, and we'll have an amazing secondary with DJ, Greedy, and GP leading the way.
You say DJ has issues, but has been targeted only 6 times in 4 games. Teams aren't throwing to his side. At all.
Agree with everything else you say.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
1 SEC win. Zero road wins. Fans calling for Orgeron's head.
This is the only plausible outcome at this point.
This is the only plausible outcome at this point.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
If we are not in the playoffs next year coach 0 needs to be fired
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