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Tiger Voodoo
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re: Les really let the program slide
Now do O


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SammyTiger
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re: Les really let the program slide
1999 LSU 3-8

2015 LSU 9-3
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SammyTiger
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re: Les really let the program slide
2017 Os record vs teams over .500 2-4



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TigerLunatik
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re: Les really let the program slide
Of all the ridiculous things we talk about on this board, having to explain why the Saban vs Orgeron comparison is lame has to be at the top of that list.


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LSUStar
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re: Les really let the program slide
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I’ve been saying this all along.. Miles had too much talent and only won 1 national championship..


I am relieved he is gone, but equally worried that CE0 will prove to be worse. To me Miles was a complete enigma. Seemed unable/willing to learn from his mistakes. Given what CE0 did last year with the offense, I am inclined to think that he suffers from the same pig-headed malady that afflicted Miles. Really hope I am completely wrong about CE0.


LSUStar
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re: Les really let the program slide
Miles was a mistake hire. No question about it.


TigerLunatik
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re: Les really let the program slide
Miles was a mistake hire? Wtf? I hope that's a typo or something.


earl keese
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re: Les really let the program slide
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Miles was a mistake hire.


Well by God, with the number of wins and other accomplishments he achieved during his 11+ years as the head coach, I hope we make another mistake hire.

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No question about it.


If you're being serious about Miles being a mistake hire, then you ain't got the sense God gave a goose. No question about it.


TigerLunatik
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re: Les really let the program slide
I'm guessing it was sarcasm. At least that's what I'm hoping.


earl keese
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re: Les really let the program slide
Yeah, me too.


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RedTigerRulz
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re: Les really let the program slide
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If you're being serious about Miles being a mistake hire


It was a "mistake" hire in the sense that.....at the time...he hadn't won all those games here at LSU yet......and....his record at OSU while impressive with the wins over OU....was otherwise mediocre.

We could have and should have done better at the time. Now, it worked out for ol Les and therefore, worked out for all LSU fans.

But let's get real. The last 3 or 4 years of his tenure were like watching a trainwreck in slow motion and had to be painful for even the most diehard Les fan (even though they would never admit it).


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re: Les really let the program slide
Miles let it slide by getting 20 wrs and cornerbacks everyear. We stop getting oline/dlinemen along with linebackers. When Chavis wanted smaller faster defense was the nail in the coffin along with not being able to get a quarterback worth a crap every year.
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Goldrush25
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re: Les really let the program slide
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But let's get real. The last 3 or 4 years of his tenure were like watching a trainwreck in slow motion and had to be painful for even the most diehard Les fan (even though they would never admit it).



A train wreck relative to the lofty standards that he set, I guess.

He still never had a loss as bad as Troy in his worst season.
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RedTigerRulz
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loss as bad as Troy in his worst season.



I'm not even talking about Troy anymore. We've beat that horse to pulp.

I'm talking about a boring azz, overly conservative, predictable style of football that sucked the life out of every fan every game even in the wins.

He eked out wins in the most heart-stopping and infuriating ways. In a lot of those games...he he prolly should have lost but the talent carried the day.

I never want to go back to that style of football ever again.


Mayhawman
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re: Les really let the program slide
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he hadn't won all those games here at LSU yet......and....his record at OSU while impressive with the wins over OU....was otherwise mediocre.
Are you trying to compare 10-25, one year removed from 10-3 and one losing season in previous 8, to a 49-28 resurrection of a program that had one winning season in the previous 12?

Red always delivers.


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earl keese
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re: Les really let the program slide
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It was a "mistake" hire in the sense that.....at the time...he hadn't won all those games here at LSU yet.....and...his record at OSU while impressive with the wins over OU....was otherwise mediocre.


To be honest, I wasn't thrilled when Miles was named the head coach after Saban left. I remember thinking "who the hell is Les Miles?" And then remembering he was the coach at Ok. St., I thought, Jesus jumped up and down, is this the best we can do?

But he won me over real quick with the way he handled and guided the team through the 2005 hurricanes. And I for one, unlike quite a few folks here on the rant, perhaps you as well Red, didn't hold the September 2005 Tennessee loss against the man.

Now that doesn't mean there weren't times where I got mad as hell at him during games, but there were times where I got mad as hell with Saban at times and every other coach that's come and gone through the program.

As far as his time at Okie St. being mediocre, I don't know if it was or wasn't. That program struggled for a long damn time before he arrived there. They only had 1 winning season from 1989 until Miles second season there, with only 1 bowl game during that time.

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We could have and should have done better at the time.


Perhaps. I know for a fact we could have and should have done better with the last head coach hire.

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But let's get real. The last 3 or 4 years of his tenure were like watching a trainwreck in slow motion and had to be painful for even the most diehard les fan


It was time to part ways with Miles. But I think that after o's time is done at LSU, people will look back and think to themselves, gosh, those 8, 9 and 10 win seasons under Miles weren't so bad.

Of course this is only my opinion. Perhaps I'll be wrong.



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Goldrush25
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re: Les really let the program slide
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I'm not even talking about Troy anymore. We've beat that horse to pulp.



Well it's O's job to change the narrative.

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I'm talking about a boring azz, overly conservative, predictable style of football that sucked the life out of every fan every game even in the wins.

He eked out wins in the most heart-stopping and infuriating ways. In a lot of those games...he he prolly should have lost but the talent carried the day.



I couldn't care less what the offense looks like as long as we get the win. I guess that's maybe where I differ from a lot of fans. Somehow along the way style points and high flying offenses became more attractive than the actual wins.


earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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re: Les really let the program slide
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I couldn't care less what the offense looks like as long as we get the win.


That's the way I feel as well. I'll take a 17-14, 13-10 or 10-0 victory every day of the week. Find a way to win the game. How it gets done doesn't matter to me.

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Somehow along the way style points and high flying offenses became more attractive than the actual wins.


Yes. There seems to ba a lot of fans that feel that way.


Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
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re: Les really let the program slide
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I'm talking about a boring azz, overly conservative, predictable style of football that sucked the life out of every fan every game even in the wins.
How do you feel about LSU offenses other than Miles?
I mean he has 4/5 top scoring Os in LSU history (per LSU Media Guide).
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He eked out wins in the most heart-stopping and infuriating ways. In a lot of those games...he he prolly should have lost but the talent carried the day.
His LSU career rank for Avg Scoring Margin averages #18.5 in FBS.



Dave England
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re: Les really let the program slide
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Given what CE0 did last year with the offense, I am inclined to think that he suffers from the same pig-headed malady that afflicted Miles.


I believe the word you are looking for is “hubris”.



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