re: Les really let the program slide

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I’ll never blame a college kid for losing a game but to each his own

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Thats because you're a dumbass. By your logic, if a RB fumbles a ball in the open without being hit....its the coaches fault? How so?

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I’m still successful, my loving family is still here and my dog is laying next to me on my back porch,

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You have to stop lying to yourself first.

So, nothing that happened up to that point matters? What if the team that misses the FG had 3 fumbles inside the opponents 5 yard line during the game? Or 2 dropped passes in the end zone for a TD in the 1st half?

Especially if you score 17 points.

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Had/if....but thats not the way it unfolded.

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You’re
Missing the point.

There are plenty of plays in each game that decide the game.

If o goes for it in 4th and 1 and we score it’s 21-20 and either overtime or a 2 point conversion.

If we score more than 17 point the WHOLE game it would have been pretty different too.

If you’re 1 play from losing a game you haven’t done enough to win it.

Look at LSU in 2013

Les lost to Ole Miss when Metry threw 3 Picks in the first half and they won on a last second field goal.

Les lost to UGA in a 44-41 game where they scored a TD because Odel “madden cover catch” Beckham muffed a inside out 20.

Les lost to Alabama when jalen Mills fails to cover a RB.

And Les got ahredded for a 10-3 season.

Fair or not that’s the standard and it isn’t changing.

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If a RB fumbles a ball in the open without being hit....its the coaches fault? How so?

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I understand where you're going with this line of thinking Red. A player running free for what appears is going to a touchdown and just flat fumbles the ball isn't the coaches fault.

But we both know what happened earlier in the game and what may happen later in the game helps determine the outcome as well.

After reading some of the posts in the last couple of pages in this thread, I get the idea that some on here want to blame the players for blown plays or assignments, which is fine I suppose.

But the thing I find funny about that way of thinking these days, is that before o got the head coaching gig, those blown plays and missed assignments where always placed at the feet of the head coach by a lot of the people on the rant. And some of them are the ones absolving the head coach of that responsibility now that o is in charge.

A good example of that is the final play of the 2016 Florida game. It seemed that most on here wanted to place the blame for that busted play on Guice, yet in the 2015 Ole Miss game, when Brandon Harris and Leonard Fournette had some kind of mixup at the goal line in the fourth quarter and we didn't score on that possession, the players weren't blamed for that mixup. Miles was the one that shouldered the blame for that busted play.

I feel that the standards and expectations that were placed on Miles, and coaching staffs before him, should also be placed on o. And in my opinion, that isn't being done.

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Had/if....but thats not the way it unfolded.

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Give or take a few for double teams etc, there's roughly 1200 or more battles going on in a football game, leading some coaches to say each football game is won or lost a thousand times.
If every LSU player executed and won their individual battles on every play it would've been the biggest blowout/ shutout in bowl history, beginning in the 1st qtr, diluting results of your "one play".

Note the HC is ultimately responsible for the execution and winning of those individual battles.

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Look at LSU in 2013

Les lost to Ole Miss when Metry threw 3 Picks in the first half and they won on a last second field goal.

Les lost to UGA in a 44-41 game where they scored a TD because Odel “madden cover catch” Beckham muffed a inside out 20.

Les lost to Alabama when jalen Mills fails to cover a RB.

And Les got ahredded for a 10-3 season.

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I don't really remember Les getting shredded for 2013.
FWIW, you whiffed on the Bama game. Mills got beat in 2012 and not 2013. Bama hammered LSU in '13, 38-17.
I remember Les getting hammered for his unimaginative offenses, clock and game management and certain position battles with WTF starters.
I also remember 2015 with the successive weekend losses to Bama (30-16), Arkansas 31-14 and Ole Miss 38-17 as being the definitive symptom that LSU's football future was on the decline. That was following a pedestrian 8-5 2014 season.
The LSU "standard" was sinking in Miles' last years.

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RedTigerRulz

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Why you so mad?