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re: Legitimate Question for CBK or Joe Sloan!
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:48 am to SpencerRob
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:48 am to SpencerRob
So are you saying that LSU only runs the read option ?
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:50 am to lsulaw91
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:51 am to lsulaw91
So which one of your list do you think forms the basis of LSU’s current offense?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:52 am to im4LSU
Why would I do that when I had yours do it for me?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:53 am to kew48
LSU runs the Slide RPO. Same offense as with Jayden Daniels!
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:54 am to Hester Carries
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I’m always shocked at how little football knowledge people who watch thousands of hours of football have
I blame the broadcasters. The networks spend all this money on football experts to be the color guys yet they discuss the game at the most basic level to where they might as well just hire the QB of a middle school football team
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:58 am to RobbBobb
So,are you saying the Zone read is a subset of the RPO ? Can we agree that our QB almost never runs the Ball by design or scheme ?
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:03 am to kew48
I am not saying that. LSU runs the RPO which is the same offense we ran with Jayden Daniels who obviously presented a real threat to run. I would rather see us running a Proset with Nussemier under center more or in the shotgunI. It would help significantly more if our offensive line was better at run blocking.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:05 am to lsulaw91
I think Nuss is fast enough to tuck it and run like Burrow used to do. I hope he starts doing and it and adds that tool to our repertoire soon.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:07 am to lsulaw91
quote:
e knows Garrett Nussmeier is not going to run the ball?
And yet, he has.
If the defense doesn't respect the QBs ability to run, then it will open up a lane for him to run. At some point, it will be costly to an opponent.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:11 am to kew48
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So,are you saying the Zone read is a subset of the RPO ?
huh?
You cant pass out of a zone read, because the blockers are already downfield before the run option is finalized. Therefore, the "P" is never an option in a zone read
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:16 am to lsulaw91
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lsulaw91
Never DOUBLE DOWN on STUPID.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:19 am to jmon
Wow! check the mirror first.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:22 am to lsulaw91
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Wow! check the mirror first.
You're getting hammered in this thread and changed your position from your own OP.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:32 am to Sir Fury
Off the top , I can’t remember Nuss running except 2 or 3 times ? Really takes much of the juice out of the rpo. I think this is by a dictate concerned that he might get hurt and the backups are not ready. They are going to have to release him to be successful for the sec push . Much of the reason why our offensive line has not been more successful is because other team defenses have stacked the middle knowing that Nuss is not going to run or break out.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:32 am to lsulaw91
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Yes, LSU runs a run-pass option (RPO) offense:
RPO
A play where the quarterback can run, pass, or hand the ball off to a running back based on the defense's reaction. The quarterback makes this decision in real time, which gives the offense an advantage.
That would be a triple-option, and it represents an extremely small subset of RPOs as a whole.
The vast majority of RPOs involve an option to either hand the ball off to an RB or pass, with no designed QB run option. The simple, “classic” example of an RPO is an inside zone where the slot receiver runs a slant. If the LBs bite on the run, the QB pulls it and throws the slant. If the LBs stay home, he hands it off.
Bootleg plays designed to force a defender to choose between covering the receiver or QB are also technically RPOs, but not really what (knowledgeable) people are talking about when they say “RPO.” An example is the play we ran a lot with Daniels where he rolled out with Mason Taylor running toward the sideline right in front of him.
The problem for our fan base seems to be that well-executed RPOs, inside zones, and zone reads all look very similar unless you know what you’re looking for. Even on a 100% inside zone call, you want your QB to fake something after the handoff (whether acting like he’s running or acting like he’s passing). It doesn’t mean the QB actually had a pull option on the call.
ETA: We have run plenty of RPOs where Nussmeier has pulled it and completed passes. If the OL is blocking downfield on a pass, chances are it’s an RPO.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:33 am to lsulaw91
Concept of an RPO has been kicking this boards arse for years
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:40 am to lostinbr
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That would be a triple-option, and it represents an extremely small subset of RPOs as a whole.
The vast majority of RPOs involve an option to either hand the ball off to an RB or pass, with no designed QB run option. The simple, “classic” example of an RPO is an inside zone where the slot receiver runs a slant. If the LBs bite on the run, the QB pulls it and throws the slant. If the LBs stay home, he hands it off.
Bootleg plays designed to force a defender to choose between covering the receiver or QB are also technically RPOs, but not really what (knowledgeable) people are talking about when they say “RPO.” And example is the play we ran a lot with Daniels where he rolled out with Mason Taylor running toward the sideline right in front of him.
The problem for our fan base seems to be that well-executed RPOs, inside zones, and zone reads all look very similar unless you know what you’re looking for. Even on a 100% inside zone call, you want your QB to fake something after the handoff (whether acting like he’s running or acting like he’s passing). It doesn’t mean the QB actually had a pull option on the call.
ETA: We have run plenty of RPOs where Nussmeier has pulled it and completed passes. If the OL is blocking downfield on a pass, chances are it’s an RPO.
You're going to have to dumb this WAAAAY down for the OP.
He hears the fancy words the broadcasters use and automatically knows what he is talking about.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:43 am to Tigerlaff
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Are you talking about zone read? Because read option gives the qb a man to pitch the ball to after keeping.
Not the case- The main difference in a zone read and a read option is the blocking scheme. Read option runs more traditional power blocking / duo concepts and leaves a read man at the end of the line while the zone read uses a zone blocking scheme with the same option and also leaves a man on the backside to read
If there is a pitch man, that makes it a triple option. Because there’s 3 options on the play (RB handoff, QB pull and run, and QB pull and pitch)
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:12 am to lsulaw91
Nuss is not a run threat, get over it.
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