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re: Lee outplayed Hatch
Posted on 8/31/08 at 10:57 pm to Acreboy
Posted on 8/31/08 at 10:57 pm to Acreboy
Bottom Line:
Hatch played better, but Lee has more potential.
Hatch, right now is a better manager of the game and Lee is still learning. They both played decent yesterday, but like the article said the Jury is still out on both of them.
Hatch will start next game.Only Time will tell..
Hatch played better, but Lee has more potential.
Hatch, right now is a better manager of the game and Lee is still learning. They both played decent yesterday, but like the article said the Jury is still out on both of them.
Hatch will start next game.Only Time will tell..
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 6:15 am to Acreboy
quote:You want a link to a hypothetical situation?
Link?
Should I open a wormhole to the appropriate parallel dimension, Sliders style?
Posted on 9/1/08 at 6:56 am to I-59 Tiger
quote:
IMHO. Neither one looked like Davey O'Brien candidates,still I thought Lee played with more confidence. Hatch seemed sort of timid when he set to pass.
What game did you watch?
Did you get your names mixed up?
Hatch was FAR better than Lee.
hmmm - let me amend to say that Lee was far WORSE than Hatch.
Hatch seemed to be in control. Didn't show much in way of passing.
But Lee was borderline horrible. Good thing it was exhibition type game or he would have been a disaster. Looked tentative - made horrible decisions - should have had at least two more interceptions.
gotta say to this one
Posted on 9/1/08 at 6:58 am to player711
quote:
Bottom Line: Hatch played better, but Lee has more potential. Hatch, right now is a better manager of the game and Lee is still learning. They both played decent yesterday, but like the article said the Jury is still out on both of them. Hatch will start next game.Only Time will tell..
I agree, I think MATURITY showed up to play.
Hatch did not look "hurried", where Lee looked as if he had his mind made up as to what he was going to do at the onset...
That's only maturity and experience. The game will slow down for Lee as he plays more.
I think they will both do fine.
It would not be fair to judge Lee yet.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:38 am to rbdallas
im sorry if you think Lee played better you obviously werent watching the same game i was.
Lee had 3 passes that should have been intercepted. Didnt make use of 2-3 opportunities to run the ball.
Why does everyone say Lee has more potential than Hatch. Y, because he can throw the ball further? Hatch is just as raw as Lee.
Lee had 3 passes that should have been intercepted. Didnt make use of 2-3 opportunities to run the ball.
Why does everyone say Lee has more potential than Hatch. Y, because he can throw the ball further? Hatch is just as raw as Lee.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:40 am to player711
quote:
potential.
potential is often, but not always, a formula for less-than-championship performance.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:51 am to HITMAN202
OVERALL Hatch outplayed Lee, but Lee has more potential. Anxiety makes you do some weird stuff and I think that is Lee's biggest obstacle right now.
I don't think Hatch's inability to throw downfield is as big of a deal as people think. I watched the replay of LSU/Tenn in the SEC Champ. game last week and Tenn was very effective at nickel and diming us to death. Many teams do this well...why can't we?
I don't think Hatch's inability to throw downfield is as big of a deal as people think. I watched the replay of LSU/Tenn in the SEC Champ. game last week and Tenn was very effective at nickel and diming us to death. Many teams do this well...why can't we?
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:55 am to kensnippy
quote:
but Lee has more potential
y do you say this?
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:11 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
but Lee has more potential
y do you say this?
I only say this because it appears that Lee has more physical ability. IF...this is a big IF, but if Lee can calm down and make some smart decisions he could be better than Hatch. I think Hatch is further along right now at managing the game, but I'm not sure he can do much more to increase his physical abilities.
Having said that...I don't think Hatch has as much of a weanie arm as many people on here think he does.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:25 am to player711
I've read many people stating that Lee has more potential and should take more reps/lumps to grow. Rohan D. and JR both looked putrid in their first games and grew into great passers by the end of their careers. RD had Josh B to take snaps while he developed. JR unfortunatley had Marcus R. who was just as poor as a senior as JR was as a redshirt underclassman.
I don't think leaving a struggling underclassman in "to take his lumps" is necessarily going to be the best strategy. I watched a freshman SMU quaterback get blistered this weekend and have to wonder how his confidence is right now. I feel that confidence in a young quarterback is very important in decision makeing. If he has no confidence to check down recievers, run from the pocket, throw the ball away, then he will not play as well.
Bottomline. Let both play and share the learning experience (they watch the same film and can learn from the sidline too). If one plays poorly (like Josh Booty in Peach Bowl) then put in the other (ala RD) and see what he can do. Let's give our team the best chance to win every game every week. They will both grow, learn and improve from watching each others mistakes and getting playing time themselves.
I don't think leaving a struggling underclassman in "to take his lumps" is necessarily going to be the best strategy. I watched a freshman SMU quaterback get blistered this weekend and have to wonder how his confidence is right now. I feel that confidence in a young quarterback is very important in decision makeing. If he has no confidence to check down recievers, run from the pocket, throw the ball away, then he will not play as well.
Bottomline. Let both play and share the learning experience (they watch the same film and can learn from the sidline too). If one plays poorly (like Josh Booty in Peach Bowl) then put in the other (ala RD) and see what he can do. Let's give our team the best chance to win every game every week. They will both grow, learn and improve from watching each others mistakes and getting playing time themselves.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:45 am to EmoryTiger
quote:
There is a reason that Hatch did not throw downfield. He can't.
I call bullshite, I went to the spring game and both can throw deep balls.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:50 am to roygu
quote:Are you sure he made the right choice? It was Tee Martin who ended up leading the Vols to the NC, not Manning.
I remember when Peyton Manning was a freshman. The number one Vol quarterback, Colquit, received a career ending injury, Todd Helton was next in line. He was injured slightly so he gave up football knowing that he had a baseball career. It was between two true freshmen, Manning a pure passer, and another high school All American who could pass but also had better running ability. The first game they both played. Manning was so so and the other kid was about the same but he made some big plays with his running ability. Next game Phat Phil named Manning the starter. The majority of the Vol fans were outraged. Phil obviously made the right choice.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:54 am to I-59 Tiger
Wisconsin Fan! That explains a lot. People from WI are Canadians! 
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:55 am to JohnLSU
Lee stared down his receivers and rarely looked to see if any other receivers were open. Like many have said already he could had three ints on his resume. His exchanges to the RBs needs work also. At times he looked lost with the play calls when he was at shotgun. He's a work in progress
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:55 am to I-59 Tiger
You mean except for that part where Lee stares down his receivers. He might as well walk up to the line of scrimmage and call out the number of the receiver he is going to throw it to.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 11:59 am to steadytiger
Hatch is a career backup. He is only starting because lee and JJ are not experienced enough to challenge him. Let him be the caretaker this year. Hopefully, the young qb's come around for next year.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 12:29 pm to ready4something
quote:
He is only starting because lee and JJ are not experienced enough to challenge him
So when did Hatch gain all of this "experience" that Lee and JJ are lacking? I think Hatch is starting because he won the job head-to-head against Lee. As for JJ, no one really knows, because NO ONE has seen him first hand against college athletes.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 12:30 pm to JohnLSU
quote:
I call bullshite, I went to the spring game and both can throw deep balls
Agree ... I walked away from the Spring Game more impressed with Hatch than Lee.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 12:33 pm to Roaad
quote:So theres no way you back up or prove what you said. Just making sure.
You want a link to a hypothetical situation?
Posted on 9/1/08 at 12:34 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Why do you not say this?
y do you say this?
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