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re: Kyren Lacy’s attorney issues new statement in support of DA
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:16 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:16 pm to RobbBobb
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Because he was no longer in the road. You would not be able to see the impact, if he was still in front of her. She only had .5 seconds to react. That means the truck would already be on the side of the road, out of camera view, giving you a clear view of the wreck
The red arrow above shows where we see the truck turn off of the road 1 second after the collision. In order for the truck to be on the side of the road prior to the collision, he would have had to follow the green arrow from the shoulder. There’s just no way he could have done that in 1.5 seconds.
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There is no scenario where the Kia gets in front of that truck to collide with oncoming traffic, before that truck gets to the oncoming traffic. She would have plowed into the truck first.
She didn’t plow into the truck because she swerved onto the wrong side of the road.
You don’t see the truck when the wreck occurs because she flew around him at 40 mph. The fact that the wreck happened in front of the truck makes her look worse, not better.
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:17 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He almost certainly swerved right as Lacy approached, forcing funyuns to cheat left to avoid rear ending him, p
How about you take the gold truck drivers word for it.
He said he didn’t brake hard he didn’t skid etc and said it was Funyuns fault not “the green charger”
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:22 pm to lostinbr
Take a close look at your pic. Gold truck sees Lacy coming head-on, locks his brakes and swerves right but is limited by those power poles and mail boxes between the donut shop and carwash. Funyuns has no where to go but slightly left to shoot the gap between oncoming traffic (the victim) and the gold truck. She over swerves and hits the victim just as the gold truck clears and bails into the carwash parking lot.
This is likely all happening as Lacy is stabbing his car back into the correct lane.
This is likely all happening as Lacy is stabbing his car back into the correct lane.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:24 pm to Vacherie Saint
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In traffic law, liability generally lies with the individual who initiated the chain of events. Again, the video doesn't contradict anything in the original witness statements, police investigation, or the subsequent DA investigation.
I find this argument a bit puzzling.
Let’s modify the scenario slightly:
- Lacy driving on the wrong side of the road
- Gold truck slams on his brakes to avoid hitting Lacy
- Funyun lady is following too closely and/or distracted, and doesn’t brake in time
- Funyun lady runs into the back of gold truck, nobody dies
In that scenario, who do you think is found to be at fault? Lacy is driving illegally but doesn’t hit anyone. Gold truck reacts to Lacy but also doesn’t hit anyone. Funyun lady reacts to gold truck and rear-ends him because she is following too closely and/or distracted. I would bet 100% of the fault lies with Funyun lady.. am I wrong?
If I’m not wrong, then how is it any different if Funyun lady drives into the oncoming lane instead of hitting the gold truck?
Again if she were reacting to try to avoid collision with Lacy (as LSP tried to frame it) instead of the gold truck, that would certainly be a different conversation. But I don’t believe that to be the case, and based on your comments it doesn’t sound like you do either.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:26 pm to RobbBobb
Something is very fishy about this.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:29 pm to Adam Banks
again. not sure why you are struggling so much with this. It doesnt matter what the guy thinks or what you personally feel. The traffic laws dictate liability.
And the truck witness can be heard in Ory's video, answering the officer that he swerved to avoid the charger, so what's your point?
And the truck witness can be heard in Ory's video, answering the officer that he swerved to avoid the charger, so what's your point?
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Take a close look at your pic. Gold truck sees Lacy coming head-on, locks his brakes and swerves right but is limited by those power poles and mail boxes between the donut shop and carwash. Funyuns has no where to go but slightly left to shoot the gap between oncoming traffic (the victim) and the gold truck. She over swerves and hits the victim just as the gold truck clears and bails into the carwash parking lot.
I don’t really have any problem with this interpretation. That’s basically how I see it as well. Or close enough that there’s no point arguing about the remaining details we can’t see.
But that means she wasn’t swerving to avoid the oncoming green charger in her lane, as LSP stated initially. It means she was following too closely, distracted, or both. It means she chose to drive on the wrong side of the road (ironically the same thing Lacy was doing) because of her distraction/following too closely up to that point. So why arrest Lacy for negligent homicide and let her off without a traffic ticket?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:31 pm to Adam Banks
quote:But it was Kyren.
Kyren Lacy could have been a deer, a piece of debris in the road, a kid running into the road, etc etc etc.
There are no mechanisms in place to charge debris, deer and kids.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:32 pm to Vacherie Saint
PLEASE READ EVERYONE.
Another malicious attempt by the attorney to confuse the people:
It was said in the video and showed a quick page that reads the following:
"Upon discovery of the unobstructed area which shows the tires of BLACK OUT vehicle and BLACK OUT vehicle passing on the roadway, I was able to determine the distance from this location to the edge of the driveway where BLACK OUT turned into the parking lot of the car wash. This distance was 124 feet and BLACK OUT covered this distance in 2.99 seconds. This made his average speed 28.2 mph."
Guys, what this sleeze bag attorney is trying to portray is saying the gold truck driver was driving 28 mph at the time when the shite went down. What he is technically telling us is an average speed from a time of whatever the tires bullshite line is about to the time he turned into the car wash after the car accident. We know the gold truck driver was braking before the accident and continued to brake after the accident and then turned into the car wash driveway. NONE OF THIS INFORMATION is to mean the gold truck driver was driving at 28 mph the seconds prior to reacting to seeing the green charger 122 yards ahead of you coming at you "HEAD ON" per his own words.
Another malicious attempt by the attorney to confuse the people:
It was said in the video and showed a quick page that reads the following:
"Upon discovery of the unobstructed area which shows the tires of BLACK OUT vehicle and BLACK OUT vehicle passing on the roadway, I was able to determine the distance from this location to the edge of the driveway where BLACK OUT turned into the parking lot of the car wash. This distance was 124 feet and BLACK OUT covered this distance in 2.99 seconds. This made his average speed 28.2 mph."
Guys, what this sleeze bag attorney is trying to portray is saying the gold truck driver was driving 28 mph at the time when the shite went down. What he is technically telling us is an average speed from a time of whatever the tires bullshite line is about to the time he turned into the car wash after the car accident. We know the gold truck driver was braking before the accident and continued to brake after the accident and then turned into the car wash driveway. NONE OF THIS INFORMATION is to mean the gold truck driver was driving at 28 mph the seconds prior to reacting to seeing the green charger 122 yards ahead of you coming at you "HEAD ON" per his own words.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:35 pm to Adam Banks
quote:The definition of catalyst is where an event begins.
The catalyst was someone tailgating a truck distracted driving and not paying attention.
Replace Kyren Lacy with someone’s lab running out on to the road 100 yards from the golf truck and the wreck still happens.
It began with KL being in the wrong lane.
And oh, there is no mechanism to charge labs either.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:38 pm to lostinbr
Because he broke the law and started a chain of events that resulted in a fatality. Whether she was swerving to avoid Lacy or the Gold truck doesn't change the reality that the start of the chain was Lacy.
Chad's posts lay it out well. At 40MPH that gold truck was somewhere south of 2 seconds from hitting Lacy head on when he reacted. He had to bail and it left nowhere for funyuns to go and I doubt she ever saw Lacy. Maybe she should have been ticketed for following too closely? I can get with that, but his attorney is claiming he's completely innocent and the DA and Police are framing him. That's ludicrous.
Chad's posts lay it out well. At 40MPH that gold truck was somewhere south of 2 seconds from hitting Lacy head on when he reacted. He had to bail and it left nowhere for funyuns to go and I doubt she ever saw Lacy. Maybe she should have been ticketed for following too closely? I can get with that, but his attorney is claiming he's completely innocent and the DA and Police are framing him. That's ludicrous.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:39 pm to RobbBobb
that is not what the video showed
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:41 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Chad's posts lay it out well. At 40MPH that gold truck was somewhere south of 2 seconds from hitting Lacy head on
that gold truck driver was driving about 49 mph. bank on it. In order to tailgate someone, you have to be going the same rate of speed. She was a steady avg of 49.6 mph for 5 seconds prior to accident. That means gold truck was going a steady 49.6ish too. Combine with a head on Lacy that came from passing 4 cars... i'd venture to guess he was in excess of 55+ minimum before changing lanes and maybe then slowing down nearly immediately at the time he witnesses the accident 72 yards ahead.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:46 pm to Chad504boy
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt due to the speed limit, but almost no one slows down for that stretch - especially moving south. NO ONE is intentionally driving over 10MPH under the speed limit there. Thats a lie.
AI says two cars coming toward each other going 50 at a distance of 70 yards will make contact in under 1.5 seconds. 100 yards is 2 seconds. Deduct the average human visual reaction time, which is 0.25 seconds and this "massive 72 yards" Ory brings up ends up being a literal blip in time.
AI says two cars coming toward each other going 50 at a distance of 70 yards will make contact in under 1.5 seconds. 100 yards is 2 seconds. Deduct the average human visual reaction time, which is 0.25 seconds and this "massive 72 yards" Ory brings up ends up being a literal blip in time.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:04 pm to Vacherie Saint
Watch the video. From time of impact it is almost 3 secs before Lacy's car enters the frame so idk know where the 1.5 sec max reaction time to avoid Lacy is coming from.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:06 pm to Adajax
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From time of impact it is almost 3 secs before Lacy's car enters the frame
bro, lacy decelerated extremely quickly watching an accident happen in front of you and then was kind enough to not even come to a stop and just slow roll past the scene.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:21 pm to Adajax
quote:To me, the longer that time is the worse it is on Lacy's part, because that expains why (giving him more time to get over and decelerate) he was in the correct lane and coming up to the accident slowly.
Watch the video. From time of impact it is almost 3 secs before Lacy's car enters the frame so idk know where the 1.5 sec max reaction time to avoid Lacy is coming from.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:23 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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The definition of catalyst is where an event begins. It began with KL being in the wrong lane.
It began with someone not looking at the road in front of them and eating Funyuns.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:23 pm to Adajax
as another poster noted, they all likely locked brakes upon impact. My point is that at those speeds and at that distance, gold truck had somewhere south of 2 seconds to gtf out of Lacy’s way or risk impact.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:24 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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To me, the longer that time is the worse it is on Lacy's part, because that expains why (giving him more time to get over and decelerate) he was in the correct lane and coming up to the accident slowly.
The more time he has to get over the less negligent he is.
that means hw would have had plenty of time to get over if that lady had not left her lane and his the incoming car.
When this accident happens there is a car in each lane between Lacy and the woman who swerved.
Lacy didn’t his either of those cars.
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