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Posted on 3/5/11 at 2:51 pm to chilge1
by year 2
Posted on 3/5/11 at 2:53 pm to josh336
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by year 2
Then what?
Posted on 3/5/11 at 4:00 pm to Uncommon Cents
Just sayin.....when the President of the country only makes $400,000(albeit in our current state we are paying a boy to do a man's job) I believe our priorities are getting a bit out of wack. Of course the professional sports players are REALLY out of wack with their ridiculous salaries. Yes, the Romans had deteriorated to a point where they had more holidays than workdays. They also got to where they didn't even fight their own wars, but hired others to do the fighting for them....didn't work out too well since they haven't been a world power for nearly 1500 years.
Posted on 3/5/11 at 4:13 pm to Pianoman
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not unlike the Roman empire in its last days
Take things to the extreme much?
Posted on 3/5/11 at 4:49 pm to SNAKE
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my ideas and beliefs about the OC's $700,000 hire being too much
Even if you think we are overpaying, it was what was negotiated in an arms length transaction between a pretty savvy athletic department (one of the few profitable ones) and a coach/agent. I guess anyone can second-guess a business decision by LSU but the notion that he doesn't "deserve" this is laughable, since in a negotiated transaction, you get EXACTLY what you negotiated for. And the notion that the current economic conditions should have a bearing on what a highly profitable enterprise is doing, is really silly. IF LSU was losing money and paying this rate, then the question is valid. But that isn't the case.
If you don't like what Kragthorpe is being paid--either because you're jealous or bitter--look on the bright side: his high salary will make the spotlight on him brighter. If he doesn't produce, that salary be yet another reason to go a different direction.
Posted on 3/5/11 at 5:10 pm to Pianoman
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.....when the President of the country only makes $400,000
Well, isn't that $400,000 and alllllllllllllllllll living like a King expenses?
Posted on 3/5/11 at 5:12 pm to SNAKE
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1)Not all of TAF money is acquired by voluntary donations. Since a lot of these "donations" are required if you want to get tickets , parking or even get on a waiting list, money should be spent prudently , not just thrown away.[quote]
That is only your opinion. If they have a budget to operate with without going into the negative, they can do whatever they want to do with the funds.
[quote]2) LSU's # 1 choice for OC was very much in demand as the OC for Boise St. He gets hired by the wealthiest ath. dept , alum assoc , fan base in college football for 650,000 . We get a coach, while formerly a head coach, his most recent job was as a position coach @ TAM.He was not in great demand and not popular with our fan base when hired. But we pay our 2nd choice more than Texas pays
our 1st choice.[quote]
Harsin hasn't ever been a HC anywhere, but Krags has been a HC. Although Krags didn't have great success at Louisville, he can't be blamed totally for the crap Petrino left behind. Krags was successful at a little place called Tulsa. Maybe you've heard of it.
[quote]I think we could have had this coach for no more than $500,000 which is still $50,000 more than we paid our OC of 4 yrs(whether or not you blamed Crowton or Miles for our off. problems, Crowton was hired by Maryland ,who w/o near the resources that LSU has, for the same we paid him). This is your money & mine . When it's thrown away they just increase what you are already required to pay. This is NOT the cost of competing. It's the cost of WASTE !
See? You think, but everyone else doesn't have to think in the same manner as you. How do you know it is waste? Sure, the guy hasn't been an OC in the SEC for 1 day, but neither was Crowton during his first year as OC at LSU. I think we all remember how that turned out. If LSU wins the MNC this year, it $700K isn't that much of a waste when you consider the extra income that comes in from winning a championship.
Aside from that, I will pay whatever it costs me to go to the games, and you won't see me bitching about it. LSU is lucky to be one of the two football programs in the nation that is able to foot its own bill. What would happen if we let the wonderful world of Louisiana politics get its slimy fingers on it?
Posted on 3/5/11 at 5:30 pm to SNAKE
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Crowton was hired by Maryland ,who w/o near the resources that LSU has, for the same we paid him)
Actually, I think Maryland is paying Crowton more then we did last year.
LINK
By Tim Gardner, USA TODAY
BATON ROUGE - LSU offensive coordinator Gary Crowton confirmed Thursday that he is taking the offensive coordinator position at the University of Maryland.
Crowton said Wednesday night that Maryland offered him a three-year contract at $500,000 a year during an interview Wednesday. Crowton made $475,000 in 2010 at LSU and had one year remaining on his contract at $500,000
Posted on 3/5/11 at 5:34 pm to Mike Linebacker
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Even if you think we are overpaying
It's a $75,000 difference on the face of it, but we don't know the true details of the nuts and bolts of either contract.
So, getting worked up over it seems pretty silly, but each to our own.
Posted on 3/5/11 at 6:12 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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It's a $75,000 difference on the face of it, but we don't know the true details of the nuts and bolts of either contract.
This........
Posted on 3/5/11 at 7:26 pm to LSUDad
Les has it together and will keep Krag and Chief for the duration of his seven year contract . LSU will garner several SECC's and NC's and they will ride into the sunset together in 2019.
Posted on 3/5/11 at 7:49 pm to SNAKE
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Not all of TAF money is acquired by voluntary donations
All of the TAF money is acquired by people voluntarily giving it to the TAF. Some of them are essentially purchases as you point out, but it's all voluntary.
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money should be spent prudently
Well, I'm sure the fine fellows at the TAF never considered that.
Posted on 3/5/11 at 8:09 pm to Mike Linebacker
I agree the current economic conditions of the LSU athletic dept are definitely in a different state than the state of the US economy, so LSU can afford to pay the man and screw it give him more if he turns things from embarrasing to respectable on the offensive side of the ball.
Also, isn't Texas using co-offensive coordinators (seems like I read that somewhere) so of course that title will result in a lower salary than the normal offensive coordinator.
And Snake, Uncommon Cents may have asked you some questions that you can't answer but you did open yourself up to it. So my advice to you, which I'm sure you don't want, is if you can't back up all the speculation and comments that your throwing out then shut up.
Also, isn't Texas using co-offensive coordinators (seems like I read that somewhere) so of course that title will result in a lower salary than the normal offensive coordinator.
And Snake, Uncommon Cents may have asked you some questions that you can't answer but you did open yourself up to it. So my advice to you, which I'm sure you don't want, is if you can't back up all the speculation and comments that your throwing out then shut up.
Posted on 3/6/11 at 5:19 pm to doogles02
You people do know that the TAF, Gridiron Club and others give back to the school, the Band, Head Coaches, etc.
Posted on 3/6/11 at 5:21 pm to Pianoman
quote:But he had a lousy year.....
when the President of the country only makes $400,000
Posted on 3/6/11 at 5:22 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 3/6/11 at 5:27 pm to Pianoman
I almost want our OC to cost that much given Texas is paying that much to both its co-OCs.
Pay the the money and then demand/expect results.
Pay the the money and then demand/expect results.
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:49 am to siliconvalleytiger
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I almost want our OC to cost that much given Texas is paying that much to both its co-OCs.
Pay now, pay later. You gonna pay..
Posted on 3/7/11 at 11:56 am to SNAKE
quote:Agree with all of this. All of these coaches are overpaid, including the bumbling Miles.TAF pays WAAAY too much for these guys, they act like they are being held hostage or something, when in reality neither Miles, Kragthorpe or any of the others are in demand in coaching circles. We are giving away the farm with no negotiating power whatsoever.
1)Not all of TAF money is acquired by voluntary donations. Since a lot of these "donations" are required if you want to get tickets , parking or even get on a waiting list, money should be spent prudently , not just thrown away.
2) LSU's # 1 choice for OC was very much in demand as the OC for Boise St. He gets hired by the wealthiest ath. dept , alum assoc , fan base in college football for 650,000 . We get a coach, while formerly a head coach, his most recent job was as a position coach @ TAM.He was not in great demand and not popular with our fan base when hired. But we pay our 2nd choice more than Texas pays
our 1st choice.
I think we could have had this coach for no more than $500,000 which is still $50,000 more than we paid our OC of 4 yrs(whether or not you blamed Crowton or Miles for our off. problems, Crowton was hired by Maryland ,who w/o near the resources that LSU has, for the same we paid him). This is your money & mine . When it's thrown away they just increase what you are already required to pay. This is NOT the cost of competing. It's the cost of WASTE !
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