re: Kragthorpe and Jordan Jefferson

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unlike you who has never thrown a football or had to read a defense let alone a playbook,

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MY FAVORITE ARGUMENT ON TH RANT

Eh not really cause:
1. You don't know if GBeezy is telling the truth
2. People who have never picked up a football can understand the game better than those who have played
3. You don't know Tigger's experience and thus he could lie as well




People use the argument a lot on this board as well so no telling who actually tells the truth.

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3. You don't know Tigger's experience and thus he could lie as well

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This. I have no intention of e-resumeing my experiences at QB. No one would believe it, nor care.

But when a guy posts in his 1st rant post ever, that JJ will make us proud. And 3 years later, we are still waiting. You will have to excuse me if I am a tad bit doubtful.

I just know from experience that JJ's woes are not from a lack of communication. His 34 sacks in 2009 that turned into a scarcity in TD's for 2010, is more about his inability to process the speed of the game. Krags will not fix that.

JJ will either eat the ball (2009) or throw picks/take off running (2010). Lee suffers the same problem, FWIW. He throws picks or off his back foot when the heat comes. If either could be fixed, then Lee would be your starter without a doubt.

One of them has to be willing to stand in the pocket, and take the hits. They both panic, and until they control their fight or flight reflex, it is what it is.

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ne of them has to be willing to stand in the pocket, and take the hits. They both panic, and until they control their fight or flight reflex, it is what it is.

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This is true.

I have to say though, in the Cotton Bowl JJ did just that. He took some licks but got the ball downfield and out of his hands. I don't really recollect the other great games he had to compare them and say that he stayed in the pocket then but I remember vividly in the aTm game he looked like a leader and looked poised and ready to play. He had lots of time to prepare, and I'm hoping a simplification of the offense and an emphasis on execution helps JJ prepare faster/better so we see more of his aTm performance.

Don't get me wrong, he didn't have a AMAZING game vs aTm, but look at the points we scored. What we got out of him vs. aTm was all we need to have a thriving, dangerous offense (plus if he would have hit some wide open WRs in that game would've been nice).

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One of them has to be willing to stand in the pocket, and take the hits. They both panic, and until they control their fight or flight reflex, it is what it is.

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You don't watch LSU football or you watch, but don't understand.

JJ does not only stand in the pocket and take hits as he's releasing the ball, he actually gives up his body to make downfield blocks for teammates advancing the ball.

You can talk about his (and JL's) flaws, but don't go overboard to make a point.

I still don't understand why so many do not put any responsibility on the millionaire coaches whose job it is to develop the players and put them in a position to succeed.

The O-Line has been confused on blocking assignments most of the last three years; The WRs don't run the correct routes, line-up correctly, drop passes, etc.; the plays come in from the booth or sideline to the QBs late and in a foreign language.

We don't pay JJ or JL $3.75 Million/yr or even $700k.

Where's the responsibility/accountability for the coaches?

If Krags can come in and have an impact in three weeks that Miles and Crowton didn't have in three years, that says something.

Get off these guys back until you get off the couch and get your arse on the field and face the pressure they face. Have expectations, but remember they are not NFL and need good coaching as well as a personal commitment to excellence.

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If Krags can come in and have an impact in three weeks that Miles and Crowton didn't have in three years, that says something

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Let's all hope history repeats itself with Gary Crowton.

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Crowton had a different starting QB. Just thought I would point that out.

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Where?

sabertooth...i'm mostly with you...esp:
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Get off these guys back until you get off the couch and get your arse on the field and face the pressure they face. Have expectations, but remember they are not NFL and need good coaching as well as a personal commitment to excellence.
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but, i think you have to look at the poster as either uninformed OR a failed h.s. football coach who retired out w/ a loosing record and therefore has all the intelligencia to judge lsu players and coaches from their catbird's seat.

most winning coaches like miles use positive reinforcement and teaching techniques and would never be as negative as the posters. the negative posters are just negative people.

haters gotta hate.

these negative posters are such loosers that they have to put others down. the negaterds were sooo wrong last year, but praise be, they have more negative to spew.

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Eh, I played QB decades ago and I imagine someone who watches a lot of football probably knows as much as I do about the position. Unless they were elite at their position, it's overrated.

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Knowing about the position and being able to execute what you know with pressure from SEC D-linemen in front of 100k screaming fans is two different things. Throw in a confused HC, OC, O-line, and WRs. That makes it even tougher.

Actually going to war is far different than watching it on TV or reading about it in a book while on your couch in your a/c thousands of miles away from the action. This I know.

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I highly doubt there are a handful of people on the Rant who have faced an SEC defense as a QB.

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Exactly. Then, there about that many on the rant that can honestly speak about what these guys face on a day-to-day basis with any certainty. So why spew the negativity about something you can't understand?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't present it as the gospel if you don't have a clue what you're talking about.