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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:25 am to Tiger1988
quote:No, it isn't. His (or her) job is to serve and protect you. Cops work for the people. Not against the people.
understand his job is to be a dick to you
This post was edited on 11/14/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:28 am to lsufball19
quote:But they have every right to hire one.
People wanting to file a civil lawsuit don't deserve an attorney, sorry.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:30 am to Gravitiger
A lot of people seem to prefer to live in a dictatorship. Sad!
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:41 am to Tiger1988
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please provide context with a definition? Time of day, circumstances, what happened before, during and after this bullying, area (location), you physical and emotional state, and why the cop engaged with you.
I will give you one example out of many. I was pulled over for an expired inspection sticker (my fault) in the middle of the day. I was about 30 years old at the time, a property owner in the county, and my six month old was in strapped into the car seat in the back. I’m clearly not a threat to this guy. I didn’t have my insurance printed out (also my fault), so I start trying to pull it up on my phone. The cop starts yelling at me saying that he isn’t required to look at my phone. His tone throughout the encounter was belligerent and, frankly, not approaching anything that I would expect from a professional. As soon as he drives off, I turn the ticket over to locate some contact information, call his department, and ask to speak with his boss (Karen, I know). His manager says that he will review the body camera and then call me back. A few hours later he gives me a call and says that the officer did not follow protocol and asks me not to file a formal complaint against him because he was was “going through a divorce and isn’t usually like that.” He also said that he was going to move the officer to a desk job for a while. I agreed to let it go as long as his boss would note the encounter somewhere in the cop’s record.
I have many other personal examples of cops acting like bullies. I can also give you many more examples of times when cops have protected me and conducted themselves professionally. As I said earlier, most cops are good people, but SOME are bullies with badges.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:43 am to Blanky6715
Soy Moore needs to sack up .
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:04 am to pelicanpride
quote:. First you likely haven’t lived long enough or paid enough in tax dollars to speak of, but I’ll entertain you. The context I’m using “dick” to you may not mean “dick” to my generation. We aren’t a bunch of pussified whining participation trophy arse bitches like many are today. Dick to some people today are “I’m equal to that officer and can say or do what the frick ever I want”. That is wrong is you want to be treated fairly. Most officers are “PROFESSIONALS”. Their job isn’t to be your ducking friend or let you go if you were guilty “just a little”. They collect information and allow the court to do the rest.
Really? I’d hope to get a better investment than that from my tax dollars. I don’t think wanting to be treated with basic respect is too much to ask.
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Some of y’all don’t think weed is a big deal. Let me break it down frickING VIOLATING THE LAW IS A BIG DEAL to a lot of people.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:06 am to Tiger1988
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First you likely haven’t lived long enough or paid enough in tax dollars to speak of, but I’ll entertain you. The context I’m using “dick” to you may not mean “dick” to my generation. We aren’t a bunch of pussified whining participation trophy arse bitches like many are today. Dick to some people today are “I’m equal to that officer and can say or do what the frick ever I want”. That is wrong is you want to be treated fairly. Most officers are “PROFESSIONALS”. Their job isn’t to be your ducking friend or let you go if you were guilty “just a little”. They collect information and allow the court to do the rest.
Some of y’all don’t think weed is a big deal. Let me break it down frickING VIOLATING THE LAW IS A BIG DEAL to a lot of people.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:11 am to pelicanpride
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will give you one example out of many. I was pulled over for an expired inspection sticker (my fault) in the middle of the day. I was about 30 years old at the time, a property owner in the county, and my six month old was in strapped into the car seat in the back. I’m clearly not a threat to this guy. I didn’t have my insurance printed out (also my fault), so I start trying to pull it up on my phone. The cop starts yelling at me saying that he isn’t required to look at my phone. His tone throughout the encounter was belligerent and, frankly, not approaching anything that I would expect from a professional. As soon as he drives off, I turn the ticket over to locate some contact information, call his department, and ask to speak with his boss (Karen, I know). His manager says that he will review the body camera and then call me back. A few hours later he gives me a call and says that the officer did not follow protocol and asks me not to file a formal complaint against him because he was was “going through a divorce and isn’t usually like that.” He also said that he was going to move the officer to a desk job for a while. I agreed to let it go as long as his boss would note the encounter somewhere in the cop’s record.
bullshite. What a laughable crock of shite. You cannot be fricking serious if you think anybody’s gonna believe that fricking made up bullshite. Get the frick out of here. NO MAYOR OR POLICE CHIEF IS GOING TO DO THAT REGARDLESS IF YOU KNOW “Karen”. They know the consequence and BTW that isn’t bullying you fricking moron. What a crock boy.
Secondly, if your bullshite was right your arse should’ve gotten a big arse ticket and your arse should’ve had to pay a fine and your arse should’ve had to go to court. Because violating the law twice is not acceptable your dumb arse. And no that cop does not fricking have to sit there and watch your bullshite up on your phone. If you live in a lot of states.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:32 am to pelicanpride
I need to know your race first to know if the cop was in the rt or wrong on your expired inspection sticker and driving without proof of insurance.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:40 am to Tiger1988
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bullshite. What a laughable crock of shite. You cannot be fricking serious if you think anybody’s gonna believe that fricking made up bullshite.
Well why the hell did you ask me to tell you an example if you are just going to scream bullshite? It is 100% true, btw.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:45 am to dgnx6
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I need to know your race first to know if the cop was in the rt or wrong on your expired inspection sticker and driving without proof of insurance.
I was wrong to have the expired inspection sticker and not have my insurance printed out obviously. That doesn’t give the officer the right to be aggressive for a minor traffic violation. I mean, his own boss admitted he was in the wrong. And I’m white. Interestingly, I’m 98% sure the officer’s boss was black based off his accent on the phone.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:46 am to Tiger1988
I was told that a cop on administrative leave is still receiving his base salary, but his gun, badge, and police car are all taken away. He can't work overtime or a pay job that all cops seem to work. If that is true then it is a form of punishment because it greatly affects his income. What are the repercussions if the accuser is found to be lying? Does anyone know if this is true?
Posted on 11/14/20 at 2:16 pm to mametoo
That's the problem for the cops side. There are no reprocussions if someone is lying. Not fail to the cops. I am NOT saying this is what is happening in this situation, but someone could accuse an officer for something random and cost them money. Similar to how in today's world a woman can accuse a male of rape and ruin his life and career and it's his job to prove himself innocent.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 2:37 pm to 225Tyga
quote::rotflmao:
Yeah I’ve seen it
Posted on 11/14/20 at 3:42 pm to Tiger1988
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bullshite. What a laughable crock of shite. You cannot be fricking serious if you think anybody’s gonna believe that fricking made up bullshite. Get the frick out of here.
Somebody’s triggered.
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And no that cop does not fricking have to sit there and watch your bullshite up on your phone. If you live in a lot of states.
Actually, electronic proof of insurance is accepted in 49 states plus the District of Columbia. But maybe your definition of “a lot” is one?
Posted on 11/14/20 at 3:48 pm to mametoo
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I was told that a cop on administrative leave is still receiving his base salary, but his gun, badge, and police car are all taken away. He can't work overtime or a pay job that all cops seem to work. If that is true then it is a form of punishment because it greatly affects his income. What are the repercussions if the accuser is found to be lying? Does anyone know if this is true?
The “accuser” isn’t the one who places the cops on administrative leave - that’s the department. In this case, the accuser didn’t even name the cops publicly as far as I’m aware.
It really shouldn’t take the police department long to quickly review the police report and body cam footage, and determine if further investigation is necessary. If cops are being placed on leave without any evidence of wrongdoing other than a kid’s social media post, that’s a matter for the union and BRPD to discuss.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:03 pm to lostinbr
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. If cops are being placed on leave without any evidence of wrongdoing other than a kid’s social media post,
It appears that is exactly what is being done. How long were the cops on administrative leave for Gravy's accusations?
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:42 pm to mametoo
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It appears that is exactly what is being done.
Based on what? Have you seen the footage? Right now all we know is that Koy’s attorney says it’s troubling, while the police union says it’s not. It could be that one side is wrong, or it could be that the video is inconclusive as to whether the officers acted appropriately and further investigation is required.
It’s also possible that the officers were overly aggressive and Koy genuinely feels his rights were violated, while the cops still did not technically violate any department policies/procedures.
Regardless, it’s on BRPD to make a determination regarding whether or not the officers should stay on administrative leave. If BRPD is choosing to bury its head in the sand and wait for this to blow over, that’s not on Koy Moore. But again - I don’t know how anyone can know if that’s happening from the outside looking in.
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How long were the cops on administrative leave for Gravy's accusations?
No idea. But is Gravy to blame, or is it poor leadership within the department? I will add this caveat - there’s a difference between someone with a history of making wild accusations vs. a college kid who is, by all accounts I’ve heard, a great kid. I’m a lot more willing to give Koy the benefit of the doubt than Gravy when it comes to their intentions.
Posted on 11/14/20 at 4:43 pm to Tiger1988
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bullshite. What a laughable crock of shite. You cannot be fricking serious if you think anybody’s gonna believe that fricking made up bullshite. Get the frick out of here. NO MAYOR OR POLICE CHIEF IS GOING TO DO THAT REGARDLESS IF YOU KNOW “Karen”.
Yes, because every cop in the county reports directly to the mayor. Lol.
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Secondly, if your bullshite was right your arse should’ve gotten a big arse ticket and your arse should’ve had to pay a fine and your arse should’ve had to go to court.
My arse did get a ticket. My arse did pay a fine. My arse did not go court over a couple hundred dollar traffic ticket.
Seriously, how old are you? I’m spending part of my Saturday afternoon arguing with a 15 year old, aren’t I?
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