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re: Klatt on Underwood.

Posted on 9/7/26 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2719 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 1:59 pm to
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When is the last time that LSU really wanted a guy, lost him, and he ended up being great?


I wanted Landon Collins. He was pretty good at Alabama.

Others I wish LSU had pulled in…

Ed Reed
Aeneas Williams
Warrick Dunn
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5685 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:02 pm to
He has poor coaching at Michigan which doesn't help. They've mostly been a defensive school in recent years.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10283 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:22 pm to
Smart coaches are going to pay transfers who they know are good instead of high school players. Especially at QB.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33569 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:25 pm to
I think he should transfer to LSU next year, just to make the entire college football world screech.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13382 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:26 pm to
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Was it Devonta Smith? Pat Surtain II?


For everyone of those, there’s a Brock Berlin,John David Booty etc
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143862 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:33 pm to
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The gamble paid off, but taking him was a huge gamble,


No it wasn’t. He probably got next to nothing coming out of D2
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37475 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:44 pm to
it’s the stupidity of NIL and high school recruiting. it’s not really worth paying insanely high price tag for an unknown player for multiple years… better to find a known player from another school and pay for one or two years of production after they’ve proven themselves at the D1 level and another school was able to get them up to speed nutritionally and in the weight room and let them make early year mistakes.

in NIL transfer portal era, fanbases already don’t have patience … but the pressure on a freshman and sophomores getting paid insane amounts of money just puts them in an even tougher spot.

Underwood could be in an absolute stud in two years, but is it worth it for Michigan to allow him to waste three seasons at $15M per year just to get to his potential? And will Underwood be mentally strong enough to handle the pressure during these three years from a fanbase who is angry at every mistake/bad game?

This post was edited on 9/7/26 at 2:45 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15858 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:46 pm to
I will go on record now saying he cannot read defenses.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38983 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:46 pm to
I know it can be biased for us to talk about him, but I have not been impressed with him at all.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3460 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 2:58 pm to
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But it does suck for the kid


The money he's making, however, does not suck
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29426 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:06 pm to
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For what it's worth, I am listening to Joel Klatt. He says Underwood has not made any progress and has regressed. Film looks really bad, says film is "incredibly hard to watch". He wonders how long Michigan can stick with him. I know this one is in the past and I know this one really pissed us off, but we may have dodged one here.
it caused a massive chain of events that worked in our favor, HOWEVER, Underwood isn't damaged goods. He just stupidly placed himself in one of the worst possible situations he could as a hopeful pro player.

He then stupidly decided to stay in that situation instead of trying to come to LSU in the portal on a "cheap" deal. He could have backed up Leavitt, and learned under Kiffin/Weis, and been the starter going into 2027.

Regardless of what people say, physically gifted elite QBs don't just become beasts on their own. They are developed.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29426 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:09 pm to
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remember reading recruiting articles on BU and saying how elite he was at 7 on 7 tournaments and how quickly he processed the information. They were talking about how even though his physical tools were incredible, his mental game was even better.

Maybe Kelon Russel at bama was the better prospect after all.
These kids still have to be developed and some guy got mad at me because I said Michigan hasn't developed a QB since Tom Brady, and he was mediocre at best at Michigan.

Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7894 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:12 pm to
Whittingham may not be the right coach for him.

I personally believe Lane is the coach that could get Underwood to where he needs to be but he chose his path.

Kyle is a little too old school.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29426 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:13 pm to
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Chambliss started one year in DIII and only got the starting job at Ole Miss when Simmons got hurt. The gamble paid off, but taking him was a huge gamble, at least as much as taking a chance on a HS kid.
That was not a bad gamble. How is it any different from taking who he took this year for LSU backups?

He saw the tape of a senior QB who won a championship and thought it works for his offense. Remember Chambliss was a 5th year guy who played multiple years prior.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34644 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:20 pm to
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For everyone of those, there’s a Brock Berlin


are you suggesting Brock Berlin wasn’t a good college player?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17058 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:28 pm to
I think underwood is one of those guys that stood out in high school because he was bigger than everyone but then got paid and started to coast.

Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8403 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:30 pm to
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Underwood reminds me so much of dj uiagalelei. Both were high rated prospects coming out of high school due to their physical tools, but can’t read any defenses when it comes to this level of football.


Top level coaching and development is worth more long term than an extra million or so in NIL… especially for QBs.
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard...4 Losses.
Member since Oct 2003
5698 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:34 pm to
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I know this one really pissed us off, but we may have dodged one here.
In an alternate universe, CBK is coaching an Underwood lead LSU team to another 7-5 season. Thank you Dr Strange and Spiderman.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
1436 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:39 pm to
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The money he's making, however, does not suck
Im not saying his entire life is fricked

You understand that it’s ok to point out that his football situation sucks without saying he’s royally fricked in life, right? Do you understand?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29939 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 3:42 pm to
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I know he threw the winning pass in the last game, but considering who it was, it shouldn't have been that close.


The guy completed 9 passes - 6 to one receiver. I didn't see the game, but those stats alone tell me he is a primary receiver only QB who can't go through his progressions.

He's a multimillionaire though, so all's good in the hood.
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