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re: Kind of weird but OK. Ed just taking suggestions from everybody now.

Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:40 pm to
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It sounds like traditional scouting
Which is actually way more analytics-based than many think.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12167 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:41 pm to
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wat

Analysts analyze data for trends, forecasts, etc. Data scientists collect data. Data Engineers can interpret the data.


Talking about college football analysts. They chart plays (i.e., gather data). I promise you none of those guys are running forecasting models.

They are merely called "analysts" to get around classifying them as coaches or GAs in violation of NCAA rules.

And true "data scientists" do all of those things you mentioned, from collecting to cleaning to analyzing to interpreting to visualizing to reporting data.
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Do I need to propose a meeting with the coaching staff to whiteboard this?
Spoken like a true project manager. "I don't know what any of you do or what it means, but here's how to do it."
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12595 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:42 pm to
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wat

Analysts analyze data for trends, forecasts, etc. Data scientists collect data. Data Engineers can interpret the data.

Yeah.. I think you’re taking the whole football “analyst” title a little too seriously. They do a lot of stuff from charting plays to scouting personnel to game planning depending on their experience.. but the term analyst is not necessarily used in the same way that it would be used in tech/finance. An “analyst” in CFB is basically an “assistant” in the NFL.
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Do I need to propose a meeting with the coaching staff to whiteboard this?

You gonna stop with this coaching staff or hit all of college football?
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1139 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:43 pm to
It’s insanity that we have coaches that spend hours on film study not know these things but our old trainer pops it out right away? What a waste of money this offensive staff is.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12595 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:43 pm to
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It sounds like traditional scouting

Right.. because there’s no context. Which was kind of my point.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12783 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Because OP (or the article, I don’t know because he didn’t link it) provided zero context regarding what information Marucci used to come up with his recommendations.


That's all it mentioned. I can't link it anyway, paywall.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465111 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:44 pm to
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It's using data to determine what the optimal decision is. It may not be fancy regression models that MLB teams use, but it's the veey definition of prescriptive analytics.

Traditional scouting and analytics are not the same thing
Posted by TeTiger
BR
Member since Oct 2020
329 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:44 pm to
Well damn wish we would have done it or listened to stats and analytics sooner
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12167 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Traditional scouting and analytics are not the same thing
I didn't say they were.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
4174 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:46 pm to
Because he’s probably smarter than the head coach ! Burrow raved about jack !
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12167 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:52 pm to
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Because he’s probably smarter than the head coach
He's probably smarter than everyone else in the AD and most of the faculty on campus.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11479 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:59 pm to
Ridiculous it took him to put people in the correct place. What the hell are the OC and OL coaches doing?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12167 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:05 pm to
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Umm. Data collectors collect data. Analysts analyze.
Umm. Not in college football.

But even in other industries, "analysts" do often write the programs that collect data, which is mostly automated. Those tasks are not so neatly compartmentalized unless you have a massive data science team.

In other cases, "analyst" is simply a general term for entry-level employees who deal with any kind of numerical systems and reporting.
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10741 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:07 pm to
That’s not weird. That’s literally his job.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:08 pm to
3rd party football people can give good input to a gameplan. It's easy to not see the the forest for the trees as a HC sometimes.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12783 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:16 pm to
His job is to design blocking schemes? I keep asking this and I keep getting the same answer...nothing.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:20 pm to
So identifying which schemes worked best for specific players on certain plays isn’t analytics?
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69665 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:30 pm to
And any top program would have one
Posted by TeygerFan
Member since Dec 2016
556 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:47 pm to
This just proves how poorly coached this team is.

Kind of ironic how running the ball so successfully this game, after failing all year, proves our coaching is garbage.
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