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re: Kentucky had zero returning players and a first year coach-sweet 16

Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7782 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:09 pm to
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The problem was the contract Woodward gave CMM -uncalled for



It seems possible SW's public comments after the CWW firing gave candidates/agents a lot of leverage over him in contract negotiations.





Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:29 pm to
This is worse than actual dracula sanctions.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
4833 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:36 pm to
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It’s all about identifying the right coach, hiring him, and giving him the support to succeed.

LSU did none of that in replacing Wade.


Yea, look at what Ole Miss did with hiring Chris Beard. If they make it to the Sweet 16 it will only be their second time ever.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:45 pm to
Fake news
Posted by LCrox
Alabama (the smart area)
Member since Sep 2019
548 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:47 pm to
It was included in the Notice of Allegations, No. 7. So it’s not some rumor I picked up and posted. Granted the Cmte did not find evidence, but it must have had some legs to appear in the NoA.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6144 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:50 pm to
Well I think McLoser is a criminal, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a thief that has stolen $9mill from LSU that hides behind the persona of an angel. He has a great family, a nice person, and made some fans plus Admin feel he is a victim of “teams aren’t fair” while smoozing himself into 3.1million more dollars, and supposedly more NIL money. All the while he hasn’t won anything and has a legion of McLosers clamoring for more. Now if that’s not one of the smartest thieves in history of LSU, and to top it off he has magically swindled us for another year of horrific coaching. Stealing in broad daylight right before our eyes and if you dare say anything negative about him you get chastised. Don’t even think about mentioning WW who cheated carelessly but did it to make LSU a better basketball program and he did.
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2172 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:53 pm to
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The problem was the contract Woodward gave CMM -uncalled for


Given the hole Wade put the program in (and the fact that LSU MBB isnt the same dream job that football, baseball, WBB is), Woodward had to overpay no matter who it was.

Shouldn’t be an issue going further.
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
2064 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:54 pm to
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We had a coach until he started beating Kentucky.


McMahon did beat Kentucky last year
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84239 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Well I think McLoser is a criminal, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a thief that has stolen $9mill from LSU that hides behind the persona of an angel.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:34 pm to
Allegations and violations aren’t the same thing. ESPN and the IARP report are definitely not the same thing.

The IARP report found that he paid an ex players ex fiancée who was extorting him. No payments to players, ESPN is not news it’s fake news.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8880 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:51 pm to
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And WW paid players from a personal checking account.

No matter how much you cry-he gone


Really, the allegation was that he paid someone “believed” to be connected to a player. Guess what was never proven, that allegation.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15463 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Kentucky had zero returning players and a first year coach-sweet 16


Imagine a Stanford football fan saying this about Clemson after Dabo leaves
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34659 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:20 pm to
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Imagine a Stanford football fan saying this about Clemson after Dabo leaves



Imagine reading this thread and thinking this is some sort of gotcha.


We are going into year 4 with next to zero hope of making the tournament much less a sweet 16.




I didn’t expect a sweet 16 in year 1. Hell I didnt and dont expect a sweet 16 in year 4. I don’t think its unreasonable to think we should have more than 3 SEC wins in year 3 and think it’s unacceptable that we have to have a total roster rebuild going in to year 4 in *HOPES* to be on the bubble for the tourney.


This would be akin to a Stanford fan expecting a bowl game in year 3.

Once again as an aside for context LSU had more total wins than Kentucky the preceding 4 years prior to McMahon
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15463 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:23 pm to
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Imagine reading this thread and thinking this is some sort of gotcha.


I didn't think it was a gotcha, I thought it was an idiotic post to compare LSU basketball to Kentucky basketball.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34659 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:32 pm to
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didn't think it was a gotcha, I thought it was an idiotic post to compare LSU basketball to Kentucky basketball.







McMen are idiots.



Once again there is no expectation of a sweet 16 in year 1.



ANY reasonable fan should be able to expect more than 3 SEC wins in year 3. The returning players is not an excuse as proved by multiple 1st year coaches in this tournament.






How many years does it take to build a NCAA tournament team at LSU with the current rules?


Wade did it in year 2.

Johnny Jones did it in year 3 and he was having to start a tuba player year 1.

These were under the old transfer rules too.

BTW the McMen cry all the time about the cupboard- he had 4 starters from NCAA tournament teams on that first team 2 of which were returning players to LSU
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 10:35 pm
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7782 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:59 am to
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Well I think McLoser is a criminal, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a thief that has stolen $9mill from LSU that hides behind the persona of an angel. He has a great family, a nice person, and made some fans plus Admin feel he is a victim of “teams aren’t fair” while smoozing himself into 3.1million more dollars, and supposedly more NIL money. All the while he hasn’t won anything and has a legion of McLosers clamoring for more. Now if that’s not one of the smartest thieves in history of LSU, and to top it off he has magically swindled us for another year of horrific coaching. Stealing in broad daylight right before our eyes and if you dare say anything negative about him you get chastised. Don’t even think about mentioning WW who cheated carelessly but did it to make LSU a better basketball program and he did.


If he's a criminal, Scott Woodward is a criminal mastermind. But, not a good analogy imo. Just a cocky AD who gave a terrible hire an atrocious contract
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5667 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:13 am to
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Adam Banks


LOL

Yes, Kentucky is an up and coming basketball power, who has finally decided to fork out nil money to build a program in Lexington.

You can't be this stupid, comparing KY to LSU in basketball. But yet, here you are.

I'll give you a hint....pretty much any coach can win in college, as long as he has the nil to get quality players. LSU tried to go the cheap route....it didn't work. Now, we apparently are going to spend money this year. We will see how that works out. I'm one that thinks it is more about the jimmy's and joe's......
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28198 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:47 am to
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Why do people keep making these stupid fricking threads? "So and so team did such and such which is much better than LSU!!!!" We get it, the LSU men's basketball program is a dumpster fire. This is not new information.

Ya'll make thread after thread about LSU baseball being really good.

Why do people keep making these stupid fricking threads? We get it, the LSU men's baseball program is a really good. This is not new information.

Almost quoting you..
Maybe stop making thread after thread about that then? Since we all know right? So shut up since we all know.

Sound good? Using your own logic.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 6:49 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16534 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:48 am to
And he did it without the typical star-studded roster that Kentucky has - he just coached em up.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20946 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:36 am to
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But they’re Kentucky.


Oddly, they only have one McDonalds AA on the team and he does not start (Brandon Garrison).

Most of the starters are 4 yr players coming in.
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