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Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:52 pm to RummelTiger
quote:I understand this is sarcasm. But you think when one of his own players follow him makes your comment a thing?
But, but...the current players aren't impressed with the new coach!
Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:53 pm to BZ504
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I’m pretty sure he’s the one who got a guy named Ja Morant to go to Murray State.
Morant was a very lightly recruited player that was found by accident by an assistant coach. It’s not as if McMahon had to fight off Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc for his signature. His ascent from relative nobody to 2nd pick in the draft was the rarest or rare exceptions to the rule. I think even McMahon would tell you it was just a matter of the stars aligning in a way they never had before or since for him
Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:53 pm to josh336
quote:He was great at cheating. No wait.....
He was great here.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:24 pm to GeauxLSUBengalTigers
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I understand this is sarcasm. But you think when one of his own players follow him makes your comment a thing?
Wouldn't it reinforce that he's a good coach?
The fact that a guy that knows him and has been with him is willing to follow him...no?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:26 pm to Tigerbait1977
I really hope a few guys reconsider just because this coach will develop them.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 8:32 pm to Alt26
Or McMahon did a great job of developing him
Posted on 3/30/22 at 6:27 am to unctiger4
You can’t criticize Wade on player development or older players. Players we kept for multiple years and developed - Mays, Smart, Days, E Williams, M Taylor.
Portal changes this dynamic significantly - you brought in a senior PG (Pinson). You can cut those that don’t “fit”, which Wade was doing pre portal. You don’t make 4 straight tournaments without good roster management. It was maybe Wade’s greatest strength.
If Eason wasn’t as good of a find as he was, you had no 1 and dones this season…..which have we had besides Naz?
And if you get a 1 and done, you absolutely take them. Wish we had Jabari this year.
I think MM will be good about program players. Just gotta hope he can land a blue chip to go with them every couple years or find some top guys under the radar like he did with Ja, like Wade did with Waters, Cam, and Eason.
Portal changes this dynamic significantly - you brought in a senior PG (Pinson). You can cut those that don’t “fit”, which Wade was doing pre portal. You don’t make 4 straight tournaments without good roster management. It was maybe Wade’s greatest strength.
If Eason wasn’t as good of a find as he was, you had no 1 and dones this season…..which have we had besides Naz?
And if you get a 1 and done, you absolutely take them. Wish we had Jabari this year.
I think MM will be good about program players. Just gotta hope he can land a blue chip to go with them every couple years or find some top guys under the radar like he did with Ja, like Wade did with Waters, Cam, and Eason.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 8:05 am to RummelTiger
Well, maybe the party is over, they will be held accountable and they're moving on. I'm fine with it, just like I'm fine with some on the football players leaving, coaches fixing the culture. Happy to see the level of professionalism from the new coaches also.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:05 am to Tigerbait1977
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A big key difference in future for LSU basketball is you will see a lot more guys stay 3-4 years. McMahon is a developer and that takes time. Will play the bench a lot to be more balanced. Typically these type teams win championships or atleast compete.
Kansas - older more experienced team
Villanova - older more experienced team
UNC - semi older (won title just 4 years ago with experienced team and a good depth)
This is not a knock on Wade, but this philosophy I feel will be better for the tournament.
LSU was starting to trend in that direction. This year LSU had two seniors in the starting line up. They were anticipating having to Sophomores (Miller and Wilkinson) who each started several games as Freshmen.
Duke is the odds-on favorite to win the championship and they are mostly led by young players. There are different ways to win. Were he still the coach, I think you were going to see Wade try to blend high end young talent with more veteran players form both his own roster and transfers.
I do like the fact that McMahon is bringing in an experienced PG in Hill. And he is going to have to keep brining in transfers to have a shot at competing next season. But you still need "dudes" to win at the highest level. Kansas, Villanova, UNC may have a bit more experience....but it's a lot of experienced 4 and 5 star recruits.
McMahon has proven he can win at the mid-major level. He's shown the ability to recruit some of the best of the "second tier" guys and develop them into good players. The question is can he consistently land a few top 100 HS recruits each year? He's never had to fight battles with Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc to get top guys. Those are different battles because if you are "shocked" by what Wade was purportedly offering top recruits, then you would be even more shocked about the offers they get from the blue bloods. Just like SEC football. The more invested you are in a sport the more "resources" you have to compete for top talent.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:30 am to josh336
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Im not sure how or why this became a bash will wade thread.
He was great here.
It was the Wade bashers who were claiming Wade had destroyed LSU basketball,never to recover in the near future.
I enjoyed Wade but hope we are final four team next season.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 11:10 am to Alt26
LSU isn't a blue blood program, but it is still a name brand, thanks to Maravich, Shag, Pettit, Abdul-Rauf.... If MM could recruit well for Murray State, I predict he'll recruit higher quality players at LSU than he was getting at Murray State.
His players following him to LSU has given me much optimism going forward.
His players following him to LSU has given me much optimism going forward.
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