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re: Just some offerings...something to read, from the Oregonian.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:45 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:45 pm to Choupique19
The last 20ish years I agree. I said historically and historically it's the PAC. As the article pointed out though, the SEC is pouring more and more money into everything. As this happens, the SEC really separates itself from the field.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:48 pm to GoBeavs
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Thanks for the invite. I have a second job which allows me to probably watch the entire game on television.
You don't think the guys in the thread are watching the game. Multi-task.
Posted on 5/31/12 at 10:48 pm to GoBeavs
I knew the Stutes brothers that pitched for you guys. Friends of their grandfather- as he was from Louisiana. I used to cheer for you guys when they played.
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/31/12 at 11:15 pm to Cajun Revolution
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I knew the Stutes brothers that pitched for you guys. Friends of their grandfather- as he was from Louisiana. I used to cheer for you guys when they played.
Yeah, Stutes was a stud, a key starter on the 06-07 Championship teams, think he was also on the 2005 team with Jacoby Ellsbury that made it to Omaha. Saw him live last year vs the Mariners. Believe he's still relieving for Phillies?
This post was edited on 5/31/12 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 6/1/12 at 12:28 am to BigLSUNut
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"The humid air means the ball travels further."
Farther*
Posted on 6/1/12 at 1:00 am to BigLSUNut
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"The humid air means the ball travels further."
Both teams hitting in the same air. So what does it matter?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:17 am to Cajun Revolution
The Stutes brothers dad, grew up in Eunice, went to St. Ed's, and graduated from LSU. Was my neighbor.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:53 am to GoBeavs
The Beeves have to overcome the mighty Belmont . . . (What do they call themselves? the Belmont Racers? Belmont Belmontians? And where the heck is Belmont from anyway?)
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:59 am to Choupique19
I'm getting in on that! And .....
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:49 am to GoBeavs
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GoBeavs
Bring your phone or tablet to work.
Download your Justin.tv app.
Search OSU or Oregon State. Someone will more than likely stream it.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:57 am to GFunk
Oregon gets a relative break from the humidity at least for today thanks to that front that came Yesterday. Lower humidity levels and lows in the low 60's tonight is not bad at all for South Louisiana in June.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 8:53 am to jcb236
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quote: "The humid air means the ball travels further." LOL West coast physics. You can always learn something on this site. I thought dry air was better, but ... LINK
So why do they put the baseballs in a humidor in denver for Rockies games ? Wouldn't that make the ball travel even farther with a combination of balls in humid air and the higher elevation? I thought they were trying to make it more balanced at coors field?
Humiditykeepsrunslow
I guess MLB officials should talk to some physicist because according to this article they are doing this specifically to keep runs down at coors field and since 2002 (when the humidor was installed ) it has been working effectively to keep runs and homers down.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:06 am to bigbowe80
May make it easier for the pitchers to grip the ball and create movement.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:10 am to bigbowe80
Baseballs in humidor, and I thought this might be the answer. It's from the unending, all-knowing, and never wrong Wikipedia, but I think it is true and makes sense.
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In its first decade, the above-average number of home runs earned Coors Field a reputation as the most hitter-friendly park in Major League Baseball, earning the critical nicknames "Coors Canaveral"[10] (a reference to Cape Canaveral, from where NASA launches spacecraft) and "Williamsport" (referring to the site of the Little League World Series). Prior to the 2002 baseball season, studies determined that it was more the dry air rather than thin air which contributed to the more frequent home runs. It was found that baseballs stored in drier air are harder and therefore more elastic to the impact of the bat. A room-sized humidor was installed in which to store the baseballs, and since its introduction the number of home runs at Coors Field has decreased and is now nearly the same as other parks.
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In its first decade, the above-average number of home runs earned Coors Field a reputation as the most hitter-friendly park in Major League Baseball, earning the critical nicknames "Coors Canaveral"[10] (a reference to Cape Canaveral, from where NASA launches spacecraft) and "Williamsport" (referring to the site of the Little League World Series). Prior to the 2002 baseball season, studies determined that it was more the dry air rather than thin air which contributed to the more frequent home runs. It was found that baseballs stored in drier air are harder and therefore more elastic to the impact of the bat. A room-sized humidor was installed in which to store the baseballs, and since its introduction the number of home runs at Coors Field has decreased and is now nearly the same as other parks.
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 9:49 am to jcb236
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You can always learn something on this site. I thought dry air was better, but ...
So, who did they get to hit the balls in the vacuum?
Also, how did they create a vacuum around a ball field? They must of conducted that part of the experiment at a Big 10 school, those stadiums are usually pretty close to empty.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:07 am to jcb236
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Prior to the 2002 baseball season, studies determined that it was more the dry air rather than thin air which contributed to the more frequent home runs. It was found that baseballs stored in drier air are harder and therefore more elastic to the impact of the bat.
Sounds alot different then the quote from the other article from the physicist.
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Humidity is a measure of the percentage of water vapor in the air. An increase in humidity has a surprising effect on air density: As humidity increases, air density decreases. In damp air, the large, heavy oxygen and nitrogen molecules are replaced by lighter water molecules, resulting in less density -- in essence, "lighter air." Physicist Paul Doherty explains it this way: "We think of humidity as something that's added to the air on a hot, muggy day. So you might think that a ball would go farther on a dry day than on a humid day. But for every water molecule that we add to the air, we have to remove a heavier nitrogen or oxygen molecule. Since the addition of humidity actually makes the air less dense, a ball will go farther on a humid day than it will on a dry day."
So which science is current? Is the scientist from the article which is claiming (which counter-intuitive to other current thinking) humid (wetter) balls actually travel farther or the other train of thought that drier ball have more elasticity? Am I the only one who thinks this sounds like 2 exact opposite and different schools of thought on this subject?
Maybe I am just reading the other guys article wrong but it sounds to me like according to what they are saying in that article it's the exact opposite of what everybody else is saying.
ETA: Then I did a little more research and both articles are actually correct. The main idea is the pitchers have a better grip on the ball thanks to the humidity. That seems to outweigh any increase in gains that the ball will actually go farther now with a humid ball.
All Makes sense now
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 2:24 pm to bigbowe80
I was an eighth grade science teacher for many years which means I have ABSOLUTELY NO CREDENTIALS to argue with a Sheldon Cooper physicist, but I think they are about two different things. The humid air thing was not what I expected. I expected the air to be MORE dense, but the displacement of oxygen and nitrogen by a water molecule would make the air respond differently because it is less dense. It seemed counter-intuitive.
As for the ball, playing football with wet football is a similar analogy. If a ball soaked in a bucket of water would be much heavier than a ball that was kept in a 250 degree oven for a week, then it makes sense. Any amount of water, even water vapor or humidity, would change the dynamic of the ball and its response making it more or less lively. Hitting a totally dry baseball and hitting a completely soaked baseball should result in two different distances.
There was a dead ball/live-ball era ending in 1920. Although not entirely responsible for greater offensive production, the construction of and the wear and tear on the ball (dirt and nicks) would affect (grammar police alert) the ball. It is not completely likely that humidity would greatly change a pitcher's ability to grip and control a ball, but it doses seem like it would influence it to some degree.
God, I love mathematics, chemistry, and physics.
As for the ball, playing football with wet football is a similar analogy. If a ball soaked in a bucket of water would be much heavier than a ball that was kept in a 250 degree oven for a week, then it makes sense. Any amount of water, even water vapor or humidity, would change the dynamic of the ball and its response making it more or less lively. Hitting a totally dry baseball and hitting a completely soaked baseball should result in two different distances.
There was a dead ball/live-ball era ending in 1920. Although not entirely responsible for greater offensive production, the construction of and the wear and tear on the ball (dirt and nicks) would affect (grammar police alert) the ball. It is not completely likely that humidity would greatly change a pitcher's ability to grip and control a ball, but it doses seem like it would influence it to some degree.
God, I love mathematics, chemistry, and physics.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 4:53 pm to jcb236
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if LSU or one of the other half-dozen non-Kentucky SEC schools wins the title again this season, it will mark the first time in history that three different schools from the same conference won national titles in football (Alabama), basketball (Kentucky) and baseball in the same school year
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