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Just answer me this question...
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:18 pm
Has Lee shown any improvement at all through 9 games at qb? I'm not criticizing nor am I praising him. He's been streaky and erratic at times like we all predicted, but has he shown improvement on mechanics and decision-making?
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:19 pm to lurker124
stfu
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:20 pm to lurker124
He played decently at Auburn.
Looking at him now, he performs just as poorly against scrubs like Tulane as good teams in Alabama. That shows that he's just not very good regardless of competition.
Looking at him now, he performs just as poorly against scrubs like Tulane as good teams in Alabama. That shows that he's just not very good regardless of competition.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:22 pm to AlexLSU
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Looking at him now, he performs just as poorly against scrubs like Tulane as good teams in Alabama. That shows that he's just not very good regardless of competition.
Ignorant post of the day.
LSU wins the game against #1 Alabama if LSU's WR corp catches the balls thrown by Jarrett Lee. End of story. Watch the tape. If you can't see that he is improving, you're blind.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:24 pm to lurker124
Looks about the same as he did in the Spring Game to me.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:24 pm to AlexLSU
In Lee's case I think it would be incredibly helpful in the course of a game if someone (JJ or Hatch) was available to spell him for a series or a possession - just to let him step aside and get his bearings straight.
I think Lee would play much better and the use of JJ/Hatch would also put some addt'l challenges for defenses to contend with.
I think Lee would play much better and the use of JJ/Hatch would also put some addt'l challenges for defenses to contend with.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:25 pm to lsuj2006
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LSU wins the game against #1 Alabama if LSU's WR corp catches the balls thrown by Jarrett Lee. End of story. Watch the tape. If you can't see that he is improving, you're blind.
Actually this was the ignorant post of the day. Way to blame the receivers when they kept bailing him out of bad throws. Lee is playing horrible, there is no more to it.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:26 pm to lsuj2006
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LSU wins the game against #1 Alabama if LSU's WR corp catches the balls thrown by Jarrett Lee. End of story. Watch the tape. If you can't see that he is improving, you're blind.
I agree about the Wr's dropping the ball. My point is does he still throw off his back foot, miss pitch and catch throws on screens, and still make poor decisions? I'm trying to be positive but the statistics of the alabama game show you're wrong. Help me understand.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:30 pm to maburu2
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Actually this was the ignorant post of the day. Way to blame the receivers when they kept bailing him out of bad throws. Lee is playing horrible, there is no more to it.
Like the touchdown to Byrd?
Or the bomb to Mitchell that hit him in his hands?
Or the pass across the middle to Lafell before the half?
Please help me understand.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:30 pm to lsuj2006
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LSU wins the game against #1 Alabama if LSU's WR corp catches the balls thrown by Jarrett Lee. End of story. Watch the tape. If you can't see that he is improving, you're blind.
and just to add to this statement...even though it's just one example, that play where he hit lafell wide open he threw behind him. lafell had to make a great catch just to get the completion
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:31 pm to lurker124
stats in big games:
Auburn (1 pick, 1 pick 6)
Florida (2 picks, 1 pick 6)
Georgia (3 picks, 2 pick 6's)
Alabama (4 picks, 1 pick 6)
Completion percentage since the SC game:
SC (60%)
Georgia (50%)
Tulane (40%)
Alabama (38%)
The trend shows that he's actually regressing.
Auburn (1 pick, 1 pick 6)
Florida (2 picks, 1 pick 6)
Georgia (3 picks, 2 pick 6's)
Alabama (4 picks, 1 pick 6)
Completion percentage since the SC game:
SC (60%)
Georgia (50%)
Tulane (40%)
Alabama (38%)
The trend shows that he's actually regressing.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:32 pm to lurker124
It's pretty hard after Sat to conclude that Lee is improving. The play where he could have ran for the first but instead chose to pull-up and lob it towards Keiland wasn't too different from the pick-6 against Auburn.
Certainly not trying to kick a man wen he's down. I can live with some errant throws and I'm not too bothered by all of the pick-6's. What is more disturbing is how Lee just doesn't show any moxie, savvy, or poise that a QB needs.
Certainly not trying to kick a man wen he's down. I can live with some errant throws and I'm not too bothered by all of the pick-6's. What is more disturbing is how Lee just doesn't show any moxie, savvy, or poise that a QB needs.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:33 pm to lsuj2006
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Like the touchdown to Byrd?
What TD to Byrd? In the Bama game?
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Or the bomb to Mitchell that hit him in his hands?
That's really one of the few legit drops. Still he tried to stretch his fingertips, it was slightly overthrown, still should've been caught.
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Or the pass across the middle to Lafell before the half?
Did you see the ball? It was way behind him.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:35 pm to lsuj2006
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lsuj2006
so you list a couple examples out of dozens when he overthrew a wide open screen, overthrew the receiver, overthrew the wide open touchdown, threw 6 pick sixes, etc? I agree the mitchell drop was devastating, but the average fan doesn't realize how many wr's he leaves open bc he locks on to one guy. I'm not saying jefferson's the answer, I'm just saying that he hasn't shown one ounce of improvement on two basic things: decision makikng and mechanics i.e. throwing off his back foot.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:42 pm to lurker124
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Help me understand.
one of the most irritating sayings in the world.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:44 pm to lurker124
My point really is that I understand that he's young and streaky and that he's going to make mistakes. I know that most rational people predicted 2-3 losses including myself. I'm just extremely concerned with his progression. It's like some fans think that 'oh, he's young so give him a break.' I am giving him a break, but at the very least I'd hoped he'd have shown at least some progression in the right direction. Maybe I'm wrong, please tell me. It's just from the games that I'm watching he's still making the same mistakes that he made in the Auburn game. That's very very alarming. Not one game have I watched since Lee got significant playing time was I optimistic about his progress. And trust me, I'm his biggest fan. I loved Lee coming out of high school and sticking with Lsu through a coaching change. I just want him to show that he can learn from his mistakes instead of repeating them like he has.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:46 pm to 4evrlsu
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one of the most irritating sayings in the world.
Wow. Instead of you making a legit arguement you post that. No wonder there are so many delusional fans. Keep dreaming.
You are the fan that doesn't watch the game, sees the score, figures we were close, and tries to act informed.
This post was edited on 11/10/08 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:48 pm to lurker124
There were several throws that he made where he didn't stare down his receiver. There were some times that he still did, but this was the first game when I noticed him not completely locking in every time.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:48 pm to lsuj2006
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Like the touchdown to Byrd?
Or the bomb to Mitchell that hit him in his hands?
Or the pass across the middle to Lafell before the half?
Please help me understand.
like the first interception where lee tried to force the ball in between 4 defenders for 5 yards to byrd on 3rd and 17?
like when he overthrew toliver over the middle for the pick 6?
like the interception where he stared at the alabama defender running at him for literally 2 or 3 seconds before trying to throw the ball?
like the interception in overtime that effectively ended lsu's chances at winning the game?
like the time he threw the ball away instead of running 3 yards for a first down?
like the first drive of the game where instead of leading toliver down the field he threw it right where he was at that instant?
please help me understand.
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:53 pm to latiger09
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like the first interception where lee tried to force the ball in between 4 defenders for 5 yards to byrd on 3rd and 17?
Still hit Byrd in the hands. Freshman trying to make a play on down and distance.
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like the interception in overtime that effectively ended lsu's chances at winning the game?
Or the coaches putting him in a situation play-calling wise where the game is on his shoulders, and moreover, rolling him out to that side where Lafell is the main target. Tried to make the play. Lafell didn't even jump... with a defender behind him. Lafell has to take some of the blame for the OT interception. Watch the play.
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like the time he threw the ball away instead of running 3 yards for a first down?
He was trying to pull the defender off of Keiland... something that worked before this year.
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