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re: Jordy culotta trying to bring out the big guns
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:24 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:24 am to Jack Daniel
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Then enlighten us on the facts
the "facts" are if this happened to any other SEC west school LSU fans would have made TWICE as many threads on SEC rant gloating about the NCAA affirming their decision to suspend him for 2 years.
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:24 am to Brettesaurus Rex
so then why did he attempt to pour someone else's pee into a bottle?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:57 am to sunnydaze
I'll be there saturday until derek and his gestapo locate me
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:58 am to c on z
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His latest takes on Curry.....
what's he said here? I've been tuning out since he's gone full on pumper mode after seeing one practice.....for 20 minutes....in helmets
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:05 pm to BilJ
Jordy says that Curry isn't ready to be a big contributer and that he looks a little small out there. Then, when asked about those comments on AFR, he doubled down and said he stands by that statement and that Curry has some baby fat he needs to lose and replace with muscle. He went as far as to say that if CEH and Brosette were to be injured that it won't be good for LSU if Curry has to be the primary ball carrier.
I believe he said that's what he is hearing, but I'm not 100% positive on that.
I believe he said that's what he is hearing, but I'm not 100% positive on that.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:54 pm to TigerLunatik
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He went as far as to say that if CEH and Brosette were to be injured that it won't be good for LSU if Curry has to be the primary ball carrier.
well given the depth chart this seems like a no brainer
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:01 pm to BilJ
I didn't take it as anything to do with depth and more as Curry isn't good enough to be the primary ball carrier and that he's too light to do so.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:05 pm to TigerLunatik
If this guy wasn’t a tiger, none of you would care or even more, would be saying “sucks but rules are rules”.
Let the downvoting commence.
Let the downvoting commence.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:26 pm to poochie
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If this guy wasn’t a tiger
But he is
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none of you would care
Probably right because the student in question
quote:.
wasn’t a tiger
And I couldn't care less about up or down votes but surely you can see why fans are standing up for the kid. He's one of ours, if you will. I would expect that if this happened at another school, THEIR fans would be doing the same thing and I wouldn't blame them.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:37 pm to roger79
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You're right. But he violated a rule.
If you had to pass a drug test for a job and this happened, you either wouldn't get the job or you'd be fired the minute they found out.
Welcome to the real world where you get punished when you do the wrong thing. Follow the rules until you can change them.
sure, and players receive impermissible benefits all the time, which is also against the rules and supposed to result in that player being ineligible. For instance, Marcel Dareus went to Miami for a trip paid for by an agent. Was he deemed ineligible? No, he was suspended two games and made to pay back the cost of the trip to charity.
But then you have a guy like Dez Bryant, who played for a program with less pull, ruled permanently ineligible for failing to disclose a relationship with Deion Sanders. nothing about him receiving money, just he didn't disclose a relatioship.
If the NCAA was consistent whatsoever, then yeah I get it. Fulton broke a rule, was caught, and punished according the letter of the rule. However, when you have a governing body that picks and chooses when and how to enforce their own rules, that's where you have issues.
And this rule, IMO, is overkill. I think the suspension for one failed PED test is too long and believe the suspension for tampering is also too long. It's fine if you want to punish someone longer for tampering, but I think the punishment for failing to begin with is ridiculous. The NFL, for instance, has a 4 game suspension for a first time offense for PEDs and a 6 game suspension for trying to tamper with a test. Why does the NCAA feel that it is justifiable to suspend a guy an entire season for failing test and 2 for tampering? it's complete overkill IMO and just not right, especially since these kids aren't even getting paid, nor do they have any power to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement like the NFL players can through the NFLPA to address rules like this.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:45 pm to emanresu
Yeah a 19 year old who tried to cheat a test he was going to pass deserves to have half his career taken away.
Just like people who steal snickers bars should be executed.
It’s a gross overpunishment.
Just like people who steal snickers bars should be executed.
It’s a gross overpunishment.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:56 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s a gross overpunishment.
its a heavy handed punishment used to discourage cheating. If the penalty is the same for a failure then you encourage people to at least attempt cheating because why not?
its also tough to argue the rule is too tough, AFTER you've been popped for breaking it.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:11 pm to BilJ
If the punishment was an additional year sure, and aggravating factor, but just cheating on its own should be twice as bad as using PEDs
Obstruction of justice doesn’t have the same penalties as actual murder.
Also the penalty in NCAA is way steeper than pretty much any pro sport. When the education is less and we are talking about younger individuals.
Obstruction of justice doesn’t have the same penalties as actual murder.
Also the penalty in NCAA is way steeper than pretty much any pro sport. When the education is less and we are talking about younger individuals.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Just like people who steal snickers bars should be executed.
What size is the afore mentioned Snickers bar?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:43 pm to SammyTiger
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Also the penalty in NCAA is way steeper than pretty much any pro sport. When the education is less and we are talking about younger individuals.
sure and I agree....but that's not really a case for fulton to have his reduced now. Maybe the NCAA revisits this rule now for the future but I doubt they're wanting to set a precedent of showing leniency for ignorance.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:48 pm to emanresu
Why do you have such a hard on for him? You show up in every thread and say it’s not like he some innocent victim. No one saying he’s innocent were just saying the punishment doesn’t fit the crime I know you’ve read this 20 or 30 times at least yet you still say the same thing
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:50 pm to BilJ
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its a heavy handed punishment used to discourage cheating. If the penalty is the same for a failure then you encourage people to at least attempt cheating because why not?
its also tough to argue the rule is too tough, AFTER you've been popped for breaking it.
That's exactly why the rule should be:
1 year for using PED's
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1 year for trying to cheat the test
Clearly this is what was intended when they wrote the rule. If they'd written it correctly, Fulton would have sat 1 year.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:31 pm to BilJ
Prisoners ask for reduced sentences all the time.
I think Given his circumstances the NCAA should have reduced.
I think Given his circumstances the NCAA should have reduced.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:35 pm to lsufball19
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And this rule, IMO, is overkill
yeah its almost as if it was set up as a deterrent to make an example of players stupid enough to walk into a drug test with a bottle of pee in their pocket
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:58 pm to emanresu
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He's not some kind of innocent victim. This is not a good look, nor is it a very sympathetic cause, and I'm embarrassed for those who can't take off their purple and gold glasses.
Don’t be an a-hole.
He made a mistake and the punishment he got does not fit his crime.
He lost a year already. Making him lose another is excessive.
Besides the NCAA has a long history of being inconsistent in their punishments and not always doing right by the player.
They should be called out at every opportunity. And this is one of those opportunities
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