re: Jordy Culotta - "Blood is in the water. Wheels are in motion...higher ups have had enough"

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In the real world Orgeron was named personally in the Guice shite show and has gotten run out of town at every job but LSU.

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His previous job experience has zero to do with his contract at LSU (save for what look to be harsh penalties for alcohol abuse that I assume are related to his past and which are distinctly codified within said contract) and is thus irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

As to all matters Guice, they investigated it over the summer and still retained him. Were they to fire him for that NOW, they'd be legally liable for keeping him on from then until now and every female LSU employee who came in contact with him would sue for hostile work environment for knowingly employing someone they knew had committed fireable offenses and yet did nothing in the interim.

Whatever money LSU thinks they'd save from attempting to enact the "for cause" clause would be dwarfed by all the other settlements they'd have to pay out to everyone else. The fiscally prudent option would just be to eat the buyout, make everything go away as quietly as possible, and start from scratch.

TLDR: LSU lost the chance to fire O for Guice over the summer and now it's too late.

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LSU 100% has enough dirt on him to make Orgeron join the likes of Shelton Felton and Hugh Freeze in being blacklisted from reputable college jobs and NFL jobs.

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There are repercussions from going scorched earth against Ed in such a manner.

A. Ed no doubt has dirt of his own on those that would take action against him that he'd be happy to share to anyone with a microphone.

B. Poison the water too much and you'll scare off potential replacements who will say to themselves "Man, I don't want to get in business with those b*stards and see them turn on me one day."

It's not inconceivable that LSU would decide to go to the mattresses and go both barrels. But it's a lot less likely than you think because they know they'd dragged down themselves in the process.

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You're about two steps above of the normal poster here.

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So he's about 6 steps above you then.

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The Guice stuff was three years ago, and the LSU institution knew all about it.

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LSU knew about the Les Miles stuff and kept him. What's your point?

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There are repercussions from going scorched earth against Ed in such a manner.

A. Ed no doubt has dirt of his own on those that would take action against him that he'd be happy to share to anyone with a microphone.

B. Poison the water too much and you'll scare off potential replacements who will say to themselves "Man, I don't want to get in business with those b*stards and see them turn on me one day."

It's not inconceivable that LSU would decide to go to the mattresses and go both barrels. But it's a lot less likely than you think because they know they'd dragged down themselves in the process.

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Every single agreement made that includes any sort of payment would include a NDA on Orgeron's part. If he decided not to sign and take this to court, he would lose out on every penny remaining once everything came out on him. LSU wouldn't have to pay him a cent.

So let's say he "poisons the water" at LSU by going public himself in retaliation. No program would touch him with a 10 foot pole. Ever again. He'd be done coaching.

Nothing you've posted holds up to any sort of scrutiny.

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As to all matters Guice, they investigated it over the summer and still retained him. Were they to fire him for that NOW, they'd be legally liable for keeping him on from then until now and every female LSU employee who came in contact with him would sue for hostile work environment for knowingly employing someone they knew had committed fireable offenses and yet did nothing in the interim.

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Ehhh. Not so sure about that. A hostile work environment does not automatically follow from the failure to fire someone who could have been fired. And we have no idea if O had any repercussions or disciplinary action taken against him short of firing him. Now, if he had indeed been kept on and created amd environment that made females uncomfortable the. that would give rise to a hostile work environment claim. But just the fact that he is still employed doesn’t get us there.

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Ehhh. Not so sure about that. A hostile work environment does not automatically follow from the failure to fire someone who could have been fired. And we have no idea if O had any repercussions or disciplinary action taken against him short of firing him. Now, if he had indeed been kept on and created amd environment that made females uncomfortable the. that would give rise to a hostile work environment claim. But just the fact that he is still employed doesn’t get us there.

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The LSU admin knew, the institution known as LSU knew.

This is like grasping at straws from a strawman.

They are than opening up potentially new areas of litigation. And none of this is going to help under the contract, meaning if the school was condoning it.. than what's the problem?

Its buyer's remorse, which is what all these people are on the boarding trying to do on behave of the school.

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The LSU admin knew, the institution known as LSU knew.

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So they covered for Orgeron? Sounds like he should keep his mouth shut when he's given a check to kick rocks.

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This is like grasping at straws from a strawman.

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What does this even mean?

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They are than opening up potentially new areas of litigation.

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This is the 5th or 6th time you've used "than" and not the correct "then". I chalked it up to a typo at first, but apparently you just aren't very intelligent.

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And none of this is going to help under the contract, meaning if the school was condoning it

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This isn't even remotely true.

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than what's the problem?

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Good Lord. See my response above about "than" vs. "then".

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Its buyer's remorse, which is what all these people are on the boarding trying to do on behave of the school.

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Are you having a stroke or something?

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This is the 5th or 6th times you've used "than" and not "then". I chalked it up to a typo at first, but apparently you just aren't very intelligent.

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If you say so melt. You're melting so fast, might as well rename yourself Butter.

"You just don't understand, we shouldn't have to pay Ed!!!!"

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The LSU admin knew, the institution known as LSU knew.

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Again- how do we get from there to a hostile work environment for any female employee he had contact with since the report was presented? Unless you have knowledge that he was not disciplined and was allowed to go on about his business then you are making a big leap.

The fact that someone committed a fireable offense and was not fired for it only increases liability of the same behavior causes problems in the future, or if there is a similar situation in the future with a different employee with a different outcome amd thst employee decides s/he was treated inequitably.

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I don't care if they pay him or not to be honest. The TAF has more than enough to do whatever it is that they want.

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Right, hence all the melting.

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Informing the ignorant about simple contract law, and then simple grammar, isn't melting Derek.

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Dude, you're melting all over the place.

You explaining contracts, I love the part where you said LSU could fire him for cause for losing.