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re: Joel Klatt : "Freeman took the job Kelly ran from and elevated it past where he had it"
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:39 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:39 pm to LSBoosie
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You don't think it's more difficult to make the national championship game now than in the BCS era?
Absolutely not. There was zero room for error in the BCS era. You had to be in the top two, and in the SEC that meant as a conference champ. You literally had almost no chance with 2 losses. Look how many teams had two losses this year in the 12 team field.
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:43 pm to DCtiger1
“job BK ran from “. Some people will live with the truth and some lies.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:43 pm to DCtiger1
I'm not talking about making the playoff. I'm talking about making the national championship game.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:47 pm to LSBoosie
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I'm not talking about making the playoff. I'm talking about making the national championship game.
As am I. In the BCS era, minus 2007, you had no shot at making the NC game with 2 losses. In a 12 team playoff, 2 losses isn’t a disqualifier. Hell, an SEC champ with 3 losses would still make the playoff and get to the NC game.
I understand you’re saying you have to win more games to get to the NC game, but at least you have a chance vs being eliminated in the regular season
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:55 pm to DCtiger1
You have to account for all of it. You can't just say that the regular season is harder and ignore the playoff games. For example, in the BCS era, Notre Dame could go 12-0 against a weak schedule and be in the national championship game. This year Notre Dame could have gone 12-0 then have to win 3 straight games against top 12 teams just to get to the national championship game.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:59 pm to LSBoosie
Sure, but you also have the scenario where a 2-3 loss team who previously had no shot makes it to the NC.
You’re comparing 12 spots to 2. There’s pros and cons to each. I just don’t think you can objectively say it’s harder to make the NC game. You’re entitled to your opinion.
You’re comparing 12 spots to 2. There’s pros and cons to each. I just don’t think you can objectively say it’s harder to make the NC game. You’re entitled to your opinion.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:04 pm to DCtiger1
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Sure, but you also have the scenario where a 2-3 loss team who previously had no shot makes it to the NC.
Sure, they still have to win 3 straight games against top 12 teams with one of those likely being on the road. That alone is tougher than 95% of teams entire regular seasons.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:04 pm to Tactical Syrup
Meh.
I’m not sure he elevated it. Mickey Mouse wins all but three games on their schedule. But it is an honest, if not wrong, take
I’m not sure he elevated it. Mickey Mouse wins all but three games on their schedule. But it is an honest, if not wrong, take
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:05 pm to The Baker
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They were an absolute dumpster fire before he took over at ND.
And this is why we hired him
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:07 pm to Tactical Syrup
Why can’t all the ND fans and press get over it . Why can’t they understand Kelly wanted to coach at a better and more exciting place than ND . He wanted to be where the big dogs eat ! Geez get over the butt hurt ….. 
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:23 pm to Tactical Syrup
PSU and ND had pretty easy tracks through the playoffs
PSU got SMU and Boise State.
thats 2 G5 teams a year ago.
ND got Indiana and UGA - Beck.
Honestly only really impressive with Ohio State’s slate
PSU got SMU and Boise State.
thats 2 G5 teams a year ago.
ND got Indiana and UGA - Beck.
Honestly only really impressive with Ohio State’s slate
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:25 pm to LSBoosie
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Sure, they still have to win 3 straight games against top 12 teams with one of those likely being on the road. That alone is tougher than 95% of teams entire regular seasons.
And yet their chance of making the NC game is greater than 0, which is the chance they had in the BCS
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:35 pm to DCtiger1
Again, I’m not just talking about making the playoff. Let me put it this way, which do you think is more difficult:
A) Going 12-0 while playing zero top 12 teams.
B) Going 13-2 while playing 3 top 12 teams, all in a row with one of them being a road game.
A) Going 12-0 while playing zero top 12 teams.
B) Going 13-2 while playing 3 top 12 teams, all in a row with one of them being a road game.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:38 pm to LSBoosie
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A) Going 12-0 while playing zero top 12 teams. B) Going 13-2 while playing 3 top 12 teams, all in a row with one of them being a road game.
In the BCS era, A isn’t making the NC game unless everyone else has multiple losses.
OSU isn’t even sniffing the BCS or 4 team NC game. They will cruise into the finals.
Are you odds of making the NC game lower or higher in the new format going 13-2 as compared to the BCS?
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:41 pm to Tactical Syrup
BK was there over a decade how is that “running” from the job?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:47 pm to bayoujd
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Please post Kelly’s playoff win at ND.
Please post just 1 playoff game or 1 championship game where Kelly did not get his arse handed to him.
I don’t want any nuance. Just provide answers to the above straight forward items.
I'll play this game:
2012:
@ #10 Michigan St
vs #18 Michigan
vs #17 Stanford
@ #8 Oklahoma
Before the college football playoff, the regular season was the playoff or at least that's what all those against a college football playoff have been arguing all these years, lol.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:51 pm to DCtiger1
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Are you odds of making the NC game lower or higher in the new format going 13-2 as compared to the BCS?
Well first in the BCS, teams didn’t have to play 15 games just to get to a national championship game. And I’m not talking about odds, I’m talking about the level of difficulty. In the BCS, you could have one really tough game which yes, is a must win. In the 12 team playoff you will have 3 really touch games in a row which will all be must wins. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on which is more difficult I guess.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:54 pm to John Casey
quote:
I'll play this game:
2012:
@ #10 Michigan St
vs #18 Michigan
vs #17 Stanford
@ #8 Oklahoma
You didn’t really play the game…
quote:
Before the college football playoff, the regular season was the playoff or at least that's what all those against a college football playoff have been arguing all these years, lol.
If this is your logic behind listing those teams, then why don’t you just list every single regular season opponent?
Posted on 1/5/25 at 5:59 pm to Superfluous Tiger
Not likely cowboy. Keep pumping that BK arse when we are in same place we are now next season.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:07 pm to LSBoosie
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If this is your logic behind listing those teams, then why don’t you just list every single regular season opponent?
Because it's a joke?
It's all a stupid argument. Notre Dame under Freeman is the same as Notre Dame under Kelly until Freeman and Notre Dame play in and win a title.
It's a fact that Notre Dame has had better results than LSU over the last 3 years due to a better situation, but the claims that Freeman is way better than Kelly because of a 3 year sample size is like saying Les Miles is way better than Nick Saban due to LSU's record in Les' first 3 years at LSU.
Kelly has no excuses at LSU next year and it will be interesting to see if the strategy of getting a new transfer QB every year will work long-term at Notre Dame for Freeman.
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