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re: Joe Burrow Saved this Program and Ed O will keep it going

Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:47 am to
Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:47 am to
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you have no fricking clue at what the record would have been...



People like you are the worst. Okay simpleton I will make this easy for you

Joe Burrow went 10-3.

Joe Burrow>>>>>>>>Justin Mcmillon

22-21 vs Auburn. Loss with Mcmillon
36-16 vs Georgia. Loss with Mcmillon
24-17 vs Arkansas. Loss with Mcmillon

Miami likely would have been a loss too. You think that simpleton could have done better? Post your reasoning douche
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 7:49 am
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5324 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:55 am to
You were wrong! Most LSU fans were WRONG! Coach O is making all the doubters look like the fools they are. I’m actually enjoying it
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29489 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:00 am to
Everybody's enjoying it dumbass
Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:02 am to
Lol right? Not sure anyone could not enjoy it
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:03 am to
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Had Joe not come we would have had Justin McMillon as our starter.


I don’t believe that

It was definitely a pretty decent possibility. People act like he had no shot, but McMillan was the best looking QB in the 2018 spring game. I remember watching on TV hoping for Brennan to shine, but it just wasn't happening at that time. O said it was a fact that McMillan looked the best, he talked about how he had been at LSU, how he was older and was playing with the most confidence, and he mentioned how he extended plays with his feet.

They obviously didn't think Brennan was ready, so that's why they went and looked for a transfer QB. If Burrow wouldn't have come, it was between McMillan and Brennan.

It ain't like LSU was consistently fielding great college QBs before Burrow. And while McMillan might not have been the best, I have to give the guy a lot of credit for going to lowly Tulane and actually helping to turn their pathetic program around. He led them to only their 5th and 6th bowl wins of all time and scored a lot of TDs passing and running for them over the last two years. I was impressed with what he did with them (considering it's Tulane talent we're talking about).
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77324 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:10 am to
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People like you are the worst. Okay simpleton I will make this easy for you



No dumbass, people like you are the fricking worse, you project as if its an absolute trying to make your case when you have no definitive proof what you say would have happened...

Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:16 am to
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No dumbass, people like you are the fricking worse, you project as if its an absolute trying to make your case when you have no definitive proof what you say would have happened...


Did you not read what I posted you moron? We went 9-3 in the regular season with the GOAT college QB. How do you think we would have done with a miserable QB who had to go to Tulane to even start? The "definitive proof" is impossible but you can use logic an reasoning if you are an educated person.
Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:17 am to
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LSURulzSEC


By all means, please show us how McMillon would have done in 2018.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:29 am to
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How do you think we would have done with a miserable QB who had to go to Tulane to even start?

That "miserable QB" went to pathetic Tulane and led them to consecutive bowl wins for the first time in their program's history. Tulane has been playing football since 1894.

No need to shite on McMillan. If he would have ended up the starter, we probably would have just had another 8 or 9 win season. But we wouldn't have had a season like last year.
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 8:31 am
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77324 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:32 am to
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Did you not read what I posted you moron?


Yes you fricking idiot and apparently you lack reading and comprehension. All you have done is project what would have happen with no proof, just predictions and that is not proof...just because you think it does not make it so...

quote:

We went 9-3 in the regular season with the GOAT college QB.


He wasn't the GOAT then and didn't play like one learning the system and playing under center for the first time ever in his football career...

quote:

How do you think we would have done with a miserable QB who had to go to Tulane to even start?


I don't know and you DO NOT KNOW EITHER, and I have not made any predictions to the fact like you have, yet you keep stating predictions of how someone would have performed with no proof whatsoever other than what you think would have happened and that is not proof...

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The "definitive proof" is impossible but you can use logic an reasoning if you are an educated person.


I will give you that, but what you think might happen doesn't always happen and again stating it so without any proof like you are doing is not "a fact" as you are trying to make it out to be...



Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14912 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:37 am to
Agreed, though I saw flashes of things I loved about O when he took over.

He changed practice to make more sense, he gave the program identity with his different days, worked to get former players back in. All great for winning the job but also cultivating a long term winning process. He had his missteps Canada and then caging him instead of trusting him.

O has been way more visionary of the whole picture than I imagined.

Also probably a positive that he isn’t an offense or defense wizard as that could lead to him being more stubborn in his ways.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11994 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:43 am to
Coach O built the Program.
Burrow showed us what is possible.
Brennan will keep it going.
Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:47 am to
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don't know and you DO NOT KNOW EITHER, and I have not made any predictions to the fact like you have, yet you keep stating predictions of how someone would have performed with no proof whatsoever other than what you think would have happened and that is not proof...


Comparing the two QBs talent is “proof” to me.
Posted by Hokomojo
Member since Jan 2019
159 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 8:58 am to
We could’ve very easily gone 11-1 in the regular season that year. We played Florida at possibly the worst time of the year with a beat up offensive line, and the A&M game was a joke. We played about as bad as we could against Florida and still probably should’ve won that game.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:08 am to
Ed O had a vision for the program, recruited key players and coaches including The two Joes, built a hard nosed culture, and made personnel and on-field decisions that led to a perfect season with more to come. Yes, it is a golden era, but I give the most credit to O.
Posted by HuckFinn
Member since Jan 2014
547 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:13 am to
I disagree. I think Ed Orgeron should get credit if we are going to suggest the LSU programmed was saved. I do think Joe Burrow was certainly a big catalyst; however, Ed Orgeron and Steve Ensminger were the ones who decided that the offense needed to be changed and it was they who sought advice from the Saints. So, although I believe Joe Burrow certainly accelerated the process, I also think a lesser QB would have also had very good success in this new offense. LSU may have not won a Natty but they would have been very good nonetheless. I think you have to credit Ed Orgeron for that offensive change.
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:15 am to
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Ed Orgeron saved the program by landing Joe Burrow.


According to Coach O's good friend Detillier, "Burrow saved Coach O's job."

Instead of trying to decide who saved what, let's appreciate a kind of nexus that has been a rarity for the program that happened and rescued LSU from too many years of "just barely," a dilemma we should never accept again - as we have done previously.

Posted by Geaux Vader
Member since May 2020
104 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:30 am to
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We could’ve very easily gone 11-1 in the regular season that year. We played Florida at possibly the worst time of the year with a beat up offensive line, and the A&M game was a joke. We played about as bad as we could against Florida and still probably should’ve won that game.


Yes but not with 2 star Justin McMillan
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13979 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:47 am to
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Don't lie, 95% of Tiger Nation was ecstatic when "Tom Herman has accepted the LSU head coaching job" appeared on the ESPN ticker.


Herman was to me a risky choice. He really didn’t have the skins on the wall to land a top tier HC job. He upset a couple of teams while at Houston but also had some rather bad losses. I wasn’t excited by his prospects, but would have taken him over Jimbo whom I have long thought was vastly overrated.
Posted by NattyTiger19
Sugar Bowl
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:50 am to
Uhm...I don't think this program was in need of being rescued. I think Ed O did his job and brought in Joe Burrow and the rest is history. As those that were initially downing Ed O were paying attention to nonsense until he put together a natty team in just three years and put all of that nonsense to bed at the same time.
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