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re: JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:52 am to Jason9782003
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:52 am to Jason9782003
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Jason9782003
very interesting, however, I think it would be good if we could see how many 3 and outs we had in 07 vs 09. Also how many sacks Flynn gave up vs. JJ.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
"kinda like JJ missing his stat-padding game against la tech?"
maybe so. I would certainly like to think that he would have put up some good numbers.
maybe so. I would certainly like to think that he would have put up some good numbers.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:55 am to DONHOGG
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so flynn couldn't lead his WRs and let them get YAC?
Where are the links to these stats? Also, Early Doucet was hurt most of the year, D Byrd was a first year starter, Dickson was a soph and Lafell was absolutely horrible so you can say JJ had better receivers.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:56 am to zack7552
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Bert Lyons 716
I don't mind you making your case about QB stats and such, but as far as the race comments...I didn't make any.
I'm like Stephen Colbert...I don't see color. I know JJ is black, but that's only because people tell me he is. Same with JL...I assume he's white.
Zack,was not referring to you just adding the race thing as previous poster accused us of criticizing JJ because he was black.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:57 am to Bert Lyons 716
Also besides Bama and Florida our schedule has been terrible. Has JJ even beat a ranked team yet? UGA i guess was ranked.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 9:58 am to TigerNlc
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Also besides Bama and Florida our schedule has been terrible.
that's a really big "also"
and yeah it has been cake, however, we played no elite teams in 2009 with top talent and experience
VT and OSU are not elite talents
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
is this really a good questions? i mean ive heard the phrase "no question is a stupid question" but this is just to much....
Lets see who is better....
Flynn who won us a national championship, or
Jefferson who hasnt done diddleepoo... besides get sacked once every 4 plays![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconbanghead.gif)
Lets see who is better....
Flynn who won us a national championship, or
Jefferson who hasnt done diddleepoo... besides get sacked once every 4 plays
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
I'll get blasted for this but MF could be moving the ball down field and Boom RP was brought in to break up the momentum and LSU would go 3 and out. This happened several times.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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VT and OSU are not elite talents
They were both top 5 teams in 2007
I know I posted the stats and gave JJ the nod over Flynn, but we did run a more deverse offense in 2007 compared to 2009. Is this JJ's fault for not learning enough? Could be. There are other things you have to look at besides stats - leadership, cool under pressure, etc.
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:02 am to Jason9782003
They were not in SFP rankings.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:02 am to Berndawg
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Flynn who won us a national championship
2 loss season with our signature win being against an ACC team without elite talent
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Jefferson who hasnt done diddleepoo
3 losses so far
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:03 am to Jason9782003
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They were both top 5 teams in 2007
they do not have elite talent
they benefited from the 2 worst BCS conferences that year
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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VT and OSU are not elite talents
Wow, two teams that finished in the top 10. Yeah they suck. Along with a ranked Florida, SC, Bama, Auburn, and maybe Ole Miss. They were playing ranked teams almost every week.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:05 am to TigerNlc
You can say Florida and Alabama only look elite because the SEC is really weak this year.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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VT and OSU are not elite talents
Absurd. So now beating the #1 team 38-24 and the #9 team 48-7 were against just "mediocre" teams.
Wow.
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:06 am to TigerNlc
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You can say Florida and Alabama only look elite because the SEC is really weak this year.
but it's not. not anywhere close to the ACC or Big10 level
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
JJ is that you?
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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they do not have elite talent
Bennie Wells, Laurenitis(sp?), Malcolm Jenkins...just off the top of head there. I'm sure there are others. These guys are doing pretty well in the NFL.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:11 am to Jason9782003
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but it's not. not anywhere close to the ACC or Big10 level
SEC is extremely weak this year compared to most. Us being in the top 10 most of the year is a perfect example of this.
Posted on 11/24/09 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?
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You can say Florida and Alabama only look elite because the SEC is really weak this year.
but it's not. not anywhere close to the ACC or Big10 level
By your reasoning JJ can never be a good QB because he was not recruited by other SEC teams. Despite being bumped to a 4 star,JJ was not recruited by Bama,Florida,Texas,Oklahoma,Tennessee,etc. ACC and Big X were not after him either.
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