re: JJ 2009 vs Flynn 2007 - who do you pick?

again, just checking in to see whether SFP would actually pick 2009 JJ over 2007 Flynn.

Flynn would not have been sacked 15 times thus far.

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Flynn would not have been sacked 15 times thus far.

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Reality disagrees.

We have played 11 games so far this season.

In 2007, Flynn was sacked 26 times in 11 games

flynn sure was clutdh against kentucky you stupid frick. He threw for less than 150 yrds

i dont have issues and yes there have been plenty people on here that says jj is to stupid to play qb.

but how could he have been sacked that many times with the best off line known to man? I bet if JJ had that line, he would have only been sacked twice

Does it hurt you as bad when people say that Hester was too slow to be a RB?

Thanks....you must be a lib...since I don't agree with you I have no grasp of football. I am sure you will do well in all your future debates...

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I generally hate these which qb is better threads, because to me they are all tigers...but I also hate it when people skew the facts....To me, when you offense scores at least 28 points no matter what you did a good job directing an offense. And people are quick to forget that he was injured a bunch, just like the rest of that team down the stretch (which had a lot to do with the loss to Arkansas)...

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I agree with all this. I never said that Flynn was bad. In fact, I thought Flynn did a good job at QB in 2007. However, many people on this board and fans of LSU in general don't understand how much goes into making an offense successful. There is an old saying that "quarterbacks get way too much credit when they win and way too much criticism when they don't." This is absolutely the case with LSU quarterbacks. People make Flynn out to be this incredible QB when, in fact, LSU had one of the best rushing offenses in its history that allowed drives to be sustained and kept defenses focused on the run. LSU also had a much better defense than 2009 which allowed Flynn to get many more possessions and the opportunity to score many more points. But when these discussions come around, many people either ignore these facts or are completely ignorant of them. They can only focus on the overall results - "we won a National Championship so he must be better."

Even when you compare statistics, Flynn comes in behind Jefferson and way behind Russell - but again "we won a National Champioship so he must be better."

Jordan Jefferson has done a more than servicable job this season at quarterback. He has virtually no running game to balance the offense, an inept offensive line, and an offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach who has lost the ability to call plays. But the kid keeps putting up numbers and moving the ball as best he can. Is he the best QB in the conference? Absolutely not. Is he the worst? Far, far from it. And he is far and away the best QB eligible to play.

Jefferson is arguably the third best QB in the conference.

Tebow and Mallet are clearly ahead. Snead has an argument, but I'm not sure I'd take him over Jefferson.

Crompton, nope.
Cox, nope.
McElroy, probably not.
Smith, nope.
Lee, nope.
Hartline, maybe but probably not.
Todd, nope.
Garcia, nope.