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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:34 am to
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Smith does all the little things well, and those things being absent have a cumulative negative effect that outweighs putting another good/fast guy in his spot.



Lol yea keep telling yourself that. They don’t need Smiths replacement to block well when the ball is in the air 65% of the time. He’s a slot guy. You just pointed that out. Waddle is a monster as a freshman
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:35 am to
Quinnen Qilliams might be the best D lineman in the SEC.

Also, if anything, Damien Harris is underrated, especially by the Bama fanbase. Dude has averaged like 9 ypc over the past 3 years.
Posted by bamagrad03
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2003
22 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:38 am to
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I agree with your assessment(s). I too think that the Bama ILB play for most of the first half of the season was terrible. But Wilson, and Moses have really improved in the last two games. They now seem to understand their assignments better, and are playing a lot faster. I attribute a lot of the coverage breakdowns we've seen to be a result of the ILBs being out of position, or missing their assignment. Didn't see nearly as much of that against UT. The bigger plays that UT made were back-shoulders against the Corners.


Eh, Mack Wilson was out of position all day vs Tennessee. He gave up the bomb to Chandler down the sideline (which is admittedly a tough assignment) and gave up the wheel TD on the same drive.

He's 1st year Rueben Foster right now. Complete missle attacking the LOS, 2 steps behind on anything involving coverage.
Posted by bamagrad03
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2003
22 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:43 am to
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Lol yea keep telling yourself that. They don’t need Smiths replacement to block well when the ball is in the air 65% of the time. He’s a slot guy. You just pointed that out. Waddle is a monster as a freshman


Waddle is a monster as a freshman, but there's a reason Alabama reconfigured their offense to flex a TE as the 3 receiver for most of the game against UT instead of just rolling Waddle out there.

When a large component of your passing game involves WR blocking, little things matter.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62265 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:45 am to
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Jimmy’s & Joe’s


Jimmy's and Joe's what?
Posted by lion
Member since Aug 2016
816 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:46 am to
Should also add "All SEC 2nd Team" LG Lester Cotton has been benched. The interior OL has been pretty average.

And I'd argue Damien Harris is pretty underrated.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 9:49 am
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:48 am to
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Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:52 am to
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RPO keeps & designed runs for Burrow, who is the best running QB LSU has had in a while. And since they're more pro style than ever, him running generally catches the defense off guard - Wheel routes to the RB (LSU doesn't do a lot), middle screens (LSU does do a lot)


This is the least pro style offense LSU has had in years. Also I don't think we've attempted a middle screen this season.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:52 am to
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This isn't the first year Alabama has been beating the shite out of people.


Yeah it doesn’t seem like Saban to let his defense get gashed for running yards just because they are up big. In fact it seems like exactly the sort of thing that would drive him nuts.

I realize they might not have had their 1st team defense in there for much of that, but it’s still not what you would expect to see.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6676 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:53 am to
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middle screens (LSU does do a lot)
Law of averages says we will complete one eventually also.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26317 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:07 am to
Very nice
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:12 am to
ftr, the bama fans in this thread are goat. now please go do something about the rabble over on the sec rant. holy cow they've been horrible the last few weeks.

lsu is inexplicably bad at screens which is a shame because there have been HUGE gains each time they've tried and i think it would significantly affect how defenses react in game. lsu could hit one that could change the game but it hasn't been there so far.

fortunately, lsu's o line will be the best it's been all season with brumfield coming back. they've been getting better each game despite the carousel and facing 4 excellent front 7's.

everything about lsu's offense this season has been sneaky good, under the radar. they are effective. they can put together a sustained drive against elite defenses when the game is on the line. they can score in a variety of ways. ens has been making good adjustments and has had a solid gameplan for each opponent. and watching other top qb's this season, aside from tua, i don't see anybody doing things that burrow isn't.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:13 am to
Nice analysis
Posted by bamagrad03
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2003
22 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:20 am to
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This is the least pro style offense LSU has had in years. Also I don't think we've attempted a middle screen this season.


It's still a pro style offense. Your base offense is predominately two TE sets and throwing off of play action. You do more under center than any other team in the SEC. The only material change is some RPO/ZR concepts from the shotgun, but they're obligatory and almost always result in essentially a draw from the shotgun.

But that's also why your QB runs are so effective, literally nobody is expecting it.

And you ran two middle screens on the same /drive/ vs Florida. You probably don't remember them because they've not been wildly effective this year, but the Alabama defense is susceptible to screens of all kinds, and LSU staff will see that on film and try to exploit it. I think they'll have success with it.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5334 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:24 pm to
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And you ran two middle screens on the same /drive/ vs Florida.


I remember screens but they weren't middle screens unless my memory is letting me down which is possible.

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Your base offense is predominately two TE sets and throwing off of play action.


We do throw off play action but we've been 1 TE way more than 2 TE. Our most used grouping has be 3 WR, 1 T,E 1 RB.
Posted by bamagrad03
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2003
22 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:29 pm to
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We do throw off play action but we've been 1 TE way more than 2 TE. Our most used grouping has be 3 WR, 1 T,E 1 RB.


I shouldnt have said 'predominately' - poor word choice. A lot is better. LSU used it significantly against UF and UGA. Not that much vs Auburn. And it's not always explicitly a TE, you like this look a good bit where Dillion is formationally a TE, but is a WR

LINK
Posted by BruceUnhinged
Member since Sep 2017
493 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:32 pm to
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ftr, the bama fans in this thread are goat.


Amen, honest and level headed takes! Better than the Tide Fans board lol
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