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I'm a Bama fan and this video gave me chills. Excellent work.
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So wait, Bama fans are excited about this game too? All of the Bama fans I know in real life are downplaying the shite out of this game



The ones who understand college football are. Bandwagoners probably not.
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I am pretty sure LA Tech would be the best pass defense Bama faces by a large margin. I know stats are relative, but...


It's the best secondary in the country, so of course they are. But UGA was the best secondary Oklahoma faced last year by a wide margin and they still put up 45.
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On 24 attempts. Most of his completions were either behind the LOS or within 10 yards of the LOS. The energy Tua brought was awesome and his poise was epic but if you look at his mid-range passing results in that game it was pretty average.


On 24 attempts when everyone knew he was throwing almost every play.

Here's all his plays vs UGA:
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Tua completed 7 passes that were either mid-range passes or bombs (3 on the first TD drive)
He completed 3 swing passes to RBs
He completed 4 WR screens

This year, his mid-range passing game has been as impressive as the deep ball.
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Have you never heard of receiver separation? Bama's WRs are good and fast. Against these horrible DBs playing zone defense, it's nothing for Bama WRs to get 5+ separation. Being able to do that allows the WR to adjust to the ball in the air (as long as Tua doesn't over-throw it, which is what he is actually good at - he doesn't overthrow). Tua under-throws a lot, but it's ok because the WR is yards ahead of the DB.


You keep saying this, but it took me all of 3 mins to put together a list of throws that absolutely counter this narrative.

Also, did you happen to catch the game winning throw in the title game last year?

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i know


Those games of the Heisman winning QBs included garbage teams is what I was saying.
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There would be no talk of this if they hadn't played high school defenses all year.


Only by people who

1) Haven't watched Alabama this year
2) Were doing something else during the national title game last year

Tua will be the #1 overall draft pick in two years barring massive injury. He's the best QB in college football

After 6 starts this season, Bill Connelly took the last 10 Heisman winning QBs and compiled each of their /BEST/ 6 games and Tua smashed them all statistically. Those games include tons of garbage teams.

Tua's first 6 games as a starter were better than any combination of 6 games played by each of the last 10 Heisman winning QBs. But sure, he's terrible.
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No offense, but I’m tired of over analyzing this game. I can’t wait for these teams to go to war. Saturday night is going to be fun


Well the alternative is to actually be productive at work...Which is basically impossible at this point
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that should help with the quick routes. Although you guys love running those wheel and deep corner routes.


Another thing that's kind of been touched on here but not a lot, LSU has physical corners that can knock WRs off their routes. I think that's crucial and could be another key factor given how Tua operates on timing
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Georgia - 2nd


Tua in 2 Quarters vs UGA:
166 yards 3 TDs 1 INT

Awkward

You keep digging a hole with your awful hot taeks on Tua. There exists a world where Tua can actually be an elite QB and LSU still have a chance to win the game. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

You're just searching for anything to cling to because you can't wrap your mind around that point.
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Another thing that Aranda does that Tua hasn't seen at all this year is dropping DEs in coverage. I think he'll throw that at Tua a good bit until Tua proves he can beat it.

I honestly can't think of a single team that dropped DEs this year against Alabama - and not because they couldn't but rather because it's not part of their scheme.
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Appreciate your feedback but dude was downvoted to oblivion. We all know Tua throws receivers open and certainly throws dimes.


Yes, I didn't notice the DVs

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you have to disrupt Tua, and Delpit has arguably been our best pass rusher this year (didn't look at stats, just know he's in the backfield wreaking havoc a lot)


I do think you have to blitz Tua. Tennessee tried the opposite approach dropping 7 and 8. And it absolutely did not work. As I mentioned earlier, the one potential weakness of Tua is his desire to hit the hero play, which takes time.

Combine that with the fact that he hasn't been under a lot of pressure this year, I think it's the approach you take.

But I'm not sure it's safety blitzes, because it's a huge risk. Single safety against a 3 wide + pass catching TE is a massive risk. I think you send LBs more, it also pulls double duty of helping slow the run game.

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as we've done all year, I just suspect this will be mixed up throughout the game. But on a play where Delpit gets picked up on a blitz, and he's not in coverage....shite.


Exactly. That's why I think sending LBs is better.
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Lol uh, no, he doesn't.

Bama has very fast WRs (but not unlike teams we've faced) and they've played a pool of the shittiest DBs (including A&M) in the country... That's how their WRs get open.

ETA: Also, Tua doesn't "throw dimes". His receivers are open enough to adjust to the ball while it's in the air. The thing Tua is good at is not over-throwing receivers, and I think that's because he doesn't have a strong arm, he puts everything he has into those throws, he doesn't have to place the throw, which is harder to do. I think he has enough time in the pocket to let the WR get to his throwing limit and he chunks it. He under-throws A LOT, you just can't tell because the receivers have enough room to adjust.

I'm honestly not near as impressed with Tua as I am their entire offense. I do not think Tua deserves any mention of the heisman.


I don't post here a lot. And I'm not here to tell everyone this or that about Tua. But this is honestly one of the worst takes I've ever read on literally anything. And I've seen tweets from honest to goodness flat earthers.

There are reasonable criticisms of Alabama thus far. Suggesting Alabama's defensive opposition this year is weak is an entirely reasonable (and correct) observation. The fact that Tua hasn't played in a truly hostile environment is another absolutely good take that could impact his performance vs LSU.

But to suggest Tua doesn't throw WRs open and doesn't hit them in stride is the exact opposite of reality. I've been watching college football for 30 years, I've never seen a QB as good as Tua is at anticipation and hitting WRs in stride.

He has some negatives that teams haven't been able to expose yet but they're there - especially waiting too long for the hero shot. It'll bite him eventually. But he is literally the best QB at throwing open in CFB.

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This is one of the best examples. Look at where Ruggs is in his break compared to when the ball is released:
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Watch the WR's feet in relation to ball delivery, he never slows down and is actually able to slightly accelerate through the catch

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We do throw off play action but we've been 1 TE way more than 2 TE. Our most used grouping has be 3 WR, 1 T,E 1 RB.


I shouldnt have said 'predominately' - poor word choice. A lot is better. LSU used it significantly against UF and UGA. Not that much vs Auburn. And it's not always explicitly a TE, you like this look a good bit where Dillion is formationally a TE, but is a WR

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This is the least pro style offense LSU has had in years. Also I don't think we've attempted a middle screen this season.


It's still a pro style offense. Your base offense is predominately two TE sets and throwing off of play action. You do more under center than any other team in the SEC. The only material change is some RPO/ZR concepts from the shotgun, but they're obligatory and almost always result in essentially a draw from the shotgun.

But that's also why your QB runs are so effective, literally nobody is expecting it.

And you ran two middle screens on the same /drive/ vs Florida. You probably don't remember them because they've not been wildly effective this year, but the Alabama defense is susceptible to screens of all kinds, and LSU staff will see that on film and try to exploit it. I think they'll have success with it.
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Lol yea keep telling yourself that. They don’t need Smiths replacement to block well when the ball is in the air 65% of the time. He’s a slot guy. You just pointed that out. Waddle is a monster as a freshman


Waddle is a monster as a freshman, but there's a reason Alabama reconfigured their offense to flex a TE as the 3 receiver for most of the game against UT instead of just rolling Waddle out there.

When a large component of your passing game involves WR blocking, little things matter.
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I agree with your assessment(s). I too think that the Bama ILB play for most of the first half of the season was terrible. But Wilson, and Moses have really improved in the last two games. They now seem to understand their assignments better, and are playing a lot faster. I attribute a lot of the coverage breakdowns we've seen to be a result of the ILBs being out of position, or missing their assignment. Didn't see nearly as much of that against UT. The bigger plays that UT made were back-shoulders against the Corners.


Eh, Mack Wilson was out of position all day vs Tennessee. He gave up the bomb to Chandler down the sideline (which is admittedly a tough assignment) and gave up the wheel TD on the same drive.

He's 1st year Rueben Foster right now. Complete missle attacking the LOS, 2 steps behind on anything involving coverage.
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No it would not at all. They have 5 guys to get the ball too. Waddle, Ruggs, Jeudy are all just as good


Yes and no. Yes they have talented WRs behind him, namely Waddle. But Waddle is more of a slot WR and not an X. Smith is also incredibly reliable (note that's who Tua went to in the championship game for 2nd and 26). Finally, Smith is Alabama's best blocking WR by a significant margin.

Smith does all the little things well, and those things being absent have a cumulative negative effect that outweighs putting another good/fast guy in his spot.
Good attempt OP, few things of note:

1) Losing Diggs didn't force a freshman onto the field at corner. He was firmly entrenched as a starter. It brought back the original starter that got benched in the Ole Miss game (Savion Smith) who is kind of boom or bust, but still a solid corner

2) Damien Harris is the best RB in the SEC. Full stop. He doesn't lead the team in carries because 1 - Alabama has legitimately 3 NFL RBs and 2 - because of blowouts, he's not getting many 2nd half carries. He's better than Snell Jr.

3) Not having Devonta Smith out there is actually a significant blow to the Alabama offense. So much so that they were flexing a TE in 3 receiver looks instead of bringing in Waddle vs Tennessee. I think he's the best/most reliable WR on the team, but he's overlooked because of his size.

4) I think you oversold Alabama's front 7 a bit. MLBs have been a weakness and R Davis has been a bit of a no show this year. They're still very good, but susceptible to RBs and TEs in the passing game

5) Someone mentioned Alabama struggling in the run game vs A&M. Mond had a 54 yarder and a 33 yarder. He was 98 of their 130 rushing yards. Williams had 3.9 YPC and 31 yards.

The absolute best opportunity for success for LSU won't be the run or the passing game straight up. It will be:

- RPO keeps & designed runs for Burrow, who is the best running QB LSU has had in a while. And since they're more pro style than ever, him running generally catches the defense off guard
- Wheel routes to the RB (LSU doesn't do a lot), middle screens (LSU does do a lot)