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re: Jeremy Hill had the best explanation about the fumble recovery that was not.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:24 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:24 pm to choupiquesushi
This is false. Replay booth (SEC) does not have multiple cameras in the stadium that provide them with more angles of plays.
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:24 pm to landrywasbeast30
Possession standards for a catch and a live ball on the ground couldn’t be more different
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:25 pm to RealityTiger
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As he had already established the possession and was down with the ball in both hands.
The fact that it was knocked out is what they are using to say he didn’t have possession. Part of maintaining control per the rules is making a football move which includes moving the ball away from a defender
I think it could be argued he was making a football move toward the ground to secure the loose ball
The problem is that their is no possession change almost completing the recovery. If you get two hands that should st least lead to a possession change.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:26 pm to OceanMan
There is no football move on the ground or in a dog pile.
It’s purely subjective.
It’s purely subjective.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:31 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
I don't know the best way to explain it, but the fact a player is allowed to be out of bounds, therefore unable to "possess" the ball, and can simply brush a ball with his middle finger and kill the play is bullshite.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:32 pm to landrywasbeast30
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If a wr catches a pass, and it gets knocked out before the two steps or whatever, it’s incomplete. All I know is the guy in the booth knew immediately, before the announcers even knew it would be reviewed.
Yeah but you are catching the ball. This was not a pass. He clearly has downed the ball with two hands clearly around the football and a knee down.
I would like to see an instance where they have ruled that not possession of a live football on the ground. I think the refs arbitrarily made something up because every indication is he had the ball.
So hypothetically say that he grabs the ball, pops up, and starts running to the end zone for a TD. You going to tell me the refs will say that is ok and that the play was not dead because his knee was down?
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:32 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
Agree
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:33 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Possession standards for a catch and a live ball on the ground couldn’t be more different
You sure about that? Where are all the refs or former refs saying LSU had possession of the ball? I’ll keep repeating this, I’ll trust the former ref in the booth who was really good and fair all game long, over a bunch of whining LSU homers. That guy knew his shite, and even with all the replays, he kept saying it will be overturned.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:34 pm to OceanMan
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. Part of maintaining control per the rules is making a football move which includes moving the ball away from a defender
This is not true for possession. Only in terms of a catch.
For example, recall Mond's knee after he fumbled the ball in the 7OT game. He barely had his fingers on the ball, but the refs determined that was possession, because a quarter second later, his knee was no longer on the ground.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:34 pm to mkemp0113
The refs are saying Brooks didn’t have “enough possession” and therefore the ball was still live when OOB Gump touched it, thereby killing it and allowing Bama to retain original possession.
My issue is the lack of conclusive evidence on replay to overturn the fumble ruling.
My issue is the lack of conclusive evidence on replay to overturn the fumble ruling.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:35 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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should be an illegal touching
No, no, no. The offensive player was forced out of bounds therefore no need to r establish and no illegal touching.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:36 pm to CP3forMVP
That rule will be changed soon
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:37 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
It's one of those by the rule it was correct. It sucks that it rewarded the fumbling team and maybe the rule needs to be addressed but I don't hate them for making the right call
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:38 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
I am telling you had he gotten up quick and ran with it. That split second he had his two hands on the ball and his knee down would have been considered possession and the play dead at that instant.
The refs are full of shite.
The refs are full of shite.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:39 pm to landrywasbeast30
Yes, I’m sure.
There are no football moves in a dog pile and there is no scrapping on the ground for a ball after a catch and tackle.
The refs are subjectively judging degrees of possession. But remember it was called possession by LSU on the field, so the replay must CONCLUSIVELY show otherwise. No one can say it did.
There are no football moves in a dog pile and there is no scrapping on the ground for a ball after a catch and tackle.
The refs are subjectively judging degrees of possession. But remember it was called possession by LSU on the field, so the replay must CONCLUSIVELY show otherwise. No one can say it did.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:41 pm to Vacherie Saint
can someone post the clear picture of 2 hands on the ball and down in bounds while a bama pinky possibly hovers around the ball
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:42 pm to Vacherie Saint
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There is no football move on the ground or in a dog pile.
When everyone is on the ground?
I just watched the replay over and over. Brooks barley even touched the ball when the Bama player immediately hit it. It’s easy to say he had control from a damn still picture.
I don’t know how y’all think he had possession. Possession would have been if he held the ball steady when the Bama player slapped it.
There is so much other bad shite to point out but y’all just gonna keep bitching about this confusing shite.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:44 pm to landrywasbeast30
How many seconds, by rule, does he have to maintain possession?
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:44 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The refs are subjectively judging degrees of possession.
Right. So they can decide whatever they want. Nothing has to be conclusive if what you are judging is up to the person judging it.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:46 pm to landrywasbeast30
The standards are higher for overruling a call made on the field. If there was sufficient possession on the field, even if only a second, how did that change on replay?
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 1:47 pm
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