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re: Jeremy Hill arrested for battery
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:24 am to ByteMe
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:24 am to ByteMe
quote:
And I'm saying that you can't control what people say, so ignore them. Does A word that some ignorant frick says change who you are or how you feel about yourself?
I'm not saying it has an effect on me. I'm saying not everyone reacts the same. I'm at the point of my life to realize that there are ignorant people ( white and black ) in this world and when they direct ignorant shite towards me, I know how to handle it in an adult manner. Jeremy Hill isn't mature enough to handle it in that way yet. You can't go around fighting everybody who hurts your feelings.
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:28 am to AlwysATgr
quote:No, it was an eligibility issue with NCAA paperwork over his grades or credits (as I recall). They (the NCAA) sat on their arse and it didn't clear until a couple of weeks into the season.
Wasn't Shep suspended at the start of '11? Can't recall why.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:30 am to King Joey
So does anyone know anymore or is this thread full of speculation and lies?
FWIW I haven't read but one page
FWIW I haven't read but one page
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:32 am to quail man
quote:That is a misrepresentation. It does not have anywhere near the impact due to the history behind each word and the respective races to which they apply, but both are negative, derogatory terms for a member of a race that have selectively been adopted by some subcultures as joking or endearing terms. The N word obviously has a much stronger and more vicious application, but not due to any difference in its connotation.
doesn't have the same connotation as the n word.
And as was pointed out below your comment, it is not anywhere near the same. Again, however, that is due to historical and culture factors, not a difference in connotation or meaning.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:34 am to DBeaux225
quote:
Jeremy Hill isn't mature enough to handle it in that way yet
So you think this was all caused by someone calling him that word?
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:37 am to thunderbird1100
quote:It is, sometimes, but those don't make the front page stories and blow up message boards like this one. If it has been Myles O'Brien who got arrested, do you think this thread would be 50 pages long, if it even existed?
Seriously WTF why cant it ever be BAD players
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:42 am to ByteMe
quote:
So you think this was all caused by someone calling him that word?
It could be. Hell this whole thread is speculation. We won't know the truth until it hits the media. I was responding to the poster who said Hill deserved to be called the word. I don't know anymore about the matter than you.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:50 am to DBeaux225
quote:
I was responding to the poster who said Hill deserved to be called the word.
I missed that and it was wrong. You seem like a class act and I hope that anything I said didn't come across wrong.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:51 am to AintBigButItsPretty
quote:This, all day every day and twice on Sunday.
Again, no words should lead to battery especially for someone who has already been in trouble with the law
I have had the immense frustration of dealing with people I care about who are on probation talking about how they "aren't gonna take shite" and want to beat the crap out of somebody for talking trash to them. For whatever reason (likely the same reason that landed them on probation in the first place), too many of these people are unwilling or incapable of accepting that they have, by their past actions, forfeited the right to behave the way other non-convicted felons can. Even if we do allow a "fightin' words" defense in our laws (a debate for another time), they are not in the same position to avail themselves of it. They are on probation, and THE WHOLE POINT OF PROBATION IS THAT IT IS PUNISHMENT AND RESTRICTION OF YOUR FREEDOMS BECAUSE YOUR DECISION MAKING HAS BEEN PROVEN BAD!! We as a society are not going to allow you to make judgment calls on whether someone else deserves to be punched because you have a proven history of making judgment calls that are criminally unacceptable. That's why people on probation for DUI often have a condition of no alcohol consumption because they have proven that they cannot be trusted to decide not to drive when they are intoxicated.
Granted, Hill's probation is for an offense that appears to have little in common with this situation, but his judgment is still suspect, and he MUST learn to respect that fact or he is very likely to completely ruin his own life (if he hasn't already).
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:52 am to DBeaux225
It's not speculation...several of us on here know the bitch who was responsible for this and first hand accounts.
When I first heard it was him I wasn't even surprised. He's exactly the type of kid to do this.
When I first heard it was him I wasn't even surprised. He's exactly the type of kid to do this.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:53 am to mylsuhat
quote:Then you've read too far already, if you are looking for actual information.
So does anyone know anymore or is this thread full of speculation and lies?
FWIW I haven't read but one page
In a situation like this, I would operate on the assumption that every single actual fact available (if any) is what you see in the title of the OP. I would feel reasonably confident relying on the fact that he had been arrested, and every single assertion beyond that I would disregard as having zero reliability.
That's the way I've treated this board since the beginning, and it hasn't served me ill yet.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:03 am to jimithing11
quote:
It's not speculation...several of us on here know the bitch who was responsible for this and first hand accounts. When I first heard it was him I wasn't even surprised. He's exactly the type of kid to do this.
That's why I said most are speculating. You know the victim so you pretty much can paint a picture of what happened.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:07 am to DBeaux225
He's not a victim. Deserved what he got. Pretty sure anyone else would have done the same thing to a human troll.
But I understand since Hill is a football player he has to hold himself to higher standards.
Wouldn't be surprised if tables were turned and the kid faces some assault charges for instigating it
But I understand since Hill is a football player he has to hold himself to higher standards.
Wouldn't be surprised if tables were turned and the kid faces some assault charges for instigating it
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:08 am to jimithing11
quote:Hmmm . . .
It's not speculation
quote:Knowledge of the person, but not the event . . .
several of us on here know the bitch who was responsible for this
quote:but not first hand witnessing . . .
first hand accounts
quote:reactions based on past experience rather than direct personal knowledge of the current event . . .
When I first heard it was him I wasn't even surprised
quote:judgments made on personal feelings towards the subject . . .
He's exactly the type of kid to do this
quote:Actually, that's precisely what it is.
It's not speculation...
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:09 am to King Joey
quote:
every single assertion beyond that I would disregard as having zero reliability.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I would normally agree with you but there seems to be a lot of smoke when it comes to his character. This kid has a lot of talent and I don't see people throwing him under the bus unless it was warranted.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:11 am to King Joey
Thank you for wasting 5 minutes if your life.
Congrats on being butthurt that someone knows more information than you.
Unless you are his brother
Congrats on being butthurt that someone knows more information than you.
Unless you are his brother
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:11 am to DBeaux225
WTF is going on in this thread but since im here. Who cares about the n word. Its a fricking word and if it afends you put your big boy panties on, this is the real world. People offend me everyday but I don't go crying like a lil bitch so the big bad man dosnt hurt my feelings. I am a grown arse man and brush it off. Thats everyday life when you get in the real world. The only thing bitching about the n word does is empower ignorant people to use it! If they know it pisses you off they will say it over and over and it does not matter how many crackers you fight, they will use it against you as often as possible.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:15 am
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:14 am to ByteMe
quote:Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. Where people say there is smoke, that's a different story.
I would normally agree with you but there seems to be a lot of smoke when it comes to his character.
quote:That may be true. He may be guilty of every bad thing that is said about him on here. And if he is guilty of every single bad thing said about him in this thread, it will not profit me, him, LSU, or anyone else in the world if I take this board's word for it. So why in the world would I take the chance on believing accusations like this when there is literally zero potential upside in doing so even it it is all true?
This kid has a lot of talent and I don't see people throwing him under the bus unless it was warranted.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:16 am to jimithing11
quote:
Congrats on being butthurt that someone knows more information than you.
Sorry, I shouldn't laugh at the less fortunate. I really should be pitying people like you who base your self worth on whether or not people on an internet message board think you have "more information."
Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:20 am to King Joey
Put the Gateway away, gramps. It's about seven hours past your bedtime
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