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re: JBE comes out in public support for F. King

Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:51 pm to
But Rispone worked with Jindal.

They need a straw man, Jindal is it.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12848 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:51 pm to
GOP partisans only wish it was so simple.
The real problem, which you refuse to acknowledge is that eight years of Bobby Jindal elected JBE. And Jindal as governor with GOP majorities in both houses yielded a pure- Grover Norquist record for all to see and enjoy. And it nearly killed us, just as it nearly killed Kansas.
The real problem for any GOP nominee is ultimately: How is your vision different from Jindal/ Norquist?
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:52 pm to
Just like clockwork.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4605 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:56 pm to
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And a Democrat hasn't won a straight D-vs.-R race in Louisiana since 2008 when Landrieu beat Kennedy to keep her seat in the Senate.

The Democrat was the incumbent in that statewide race too, and there's a lot of people who have been added to the Medicaid rolls since then as a result of the incumbent Democrat governor.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:06 pm to
That was also the year Obama was running for president the first time and it was the highest percentage of black vote in the electorate in Louisiana history. Democrat registration in Louisiana is sharply down from then to now.

Not to mention Kennedy had switched parties from D to R only one year earlier and had run as a liberal for the Senate in 2004. He had a major credibility problem then.

These two guys have a name ID problem, and they still need development as candidates (though Rispone is getting better on the stump at a pretty remarkable pace), but neither one has a problem convincing Republican voters he isn't a RINO.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:13 pm to
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GOP partisans only wish it was so simple. 
The real problem, which you refuse to acknowledge is that eight years of Bobby Jindal elected JBE. And Jindal as governor with GOP majorities in both houses yielded a pure- Grover Norquist record for all to see and enjoy. And it nearly killed us, just as it nearly killed Kansas. 
The real problem for any GOP nominee is ultimately: How is your vision different from Jindal/ Norquist?





Only left-wing partisans give a shite about Grover Norquist. He's not much of a talking point.

And nobody has seen hide nor hair of Bobby Jindal since 2016. He's also irrelevant. What you also forget is we no longer have the stupid bullshite feud between Jindal and Vitter splitting the Republican Party in the state like you had in 2015.

"John Bel saved us from Jindal" is hardly a winning message when you've run 100,000 people out of the state over the past four years, you've shrunk the economy two years in a row, you have the highest unemployment rate in America or damn near it and youve grown the state budget by $10 billion in four years without a single new road or bridge. Do you really think people are going to give a damn about Jindal?

Please.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12848 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:19 pm to

Doing your best to pretend there never was a Bobby Jindal and he had no adverse impact on the brand in La.?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:20 pm to
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the stupid bullshite feud between Jindal and Vitter splitting the Republican Party in the state like you had in 2015.



Two things here.

First.....

What the hell was this stupid fight about? Control over policy items? Vitter rightly recognizing Jindal as a phony or not being pure enough? Vitter fricking up some policy items for Jindal?

Second....

I will never forgive Bobby Jindal for doing everything he could to defeat Vitter even if it meant putting a liberal in the Governor's mansion.

Jindal put money and staff behind Scott Angelle and I believe that he encouraged him to go scorched earth on Vitter to the level he went.

And Jindal timed his exit from the presidential race the same week as the Gubernatorial runoff to frick over Vitter one more time to put his face and name in the news cycle one more time as a wedge to use against Vitter.

Jindal was not a team player and he especially showed it when he abandoned Louisiana and stabbed conservatives in the back by attacking Vitter.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:20 pm to
Lol, well he doesnt want a second term does he
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Doing your best to pretend there never was a Bobby Jindal and he had no adverse impact on the brand in La.?



If JBE is basing his campaign on jindal bashing and calling the republican candidates more of the same, then that's just more evidence that JBE has nothing positive at all to run on that deserves reelection.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40235 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Doing your best to pretend there never was a Bobby Jindal and he had no adverse impact on the brand in La.?


You Edwards guys can’t run on the Edwards record so you have to try and run the 2015 election again.

The fact is Edwards taxed the state into a recession, pushed people to leave La. while increasing the size of state government.

Now if Edwards had taken steps to cut out wasteful programs like the Film Credit deal, if he had reformed nursing home rules, or pushed tort reform that Jindal neglected then you could point to things Edwards accomplished that Jindal facilitated. However, you can’t say that.

All you can really say is Edwards pushed through a huge tax increase and he expanded Medicaid thus state government.

Nothing else.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
35976 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

GOP partisans only wish it was so simple.
The real problem, which you refuse to acknowledge is that eight years of Bobby Jindal elected JBE. And Jindal as governor with GOP majorities in both houses yielded a pure- Grover Norquist record for all to see and enjoy. And it nearly killed us, just as it nearly killed Kansas.
The real problem for any GOP nominee is ultimately: How is your vision different from Jindal/ Norquist?




I could not agree more, Jindal had the political capital to do the hard things to fix Louisiana and could have made a real name for himself, but he read too many of his reviews...
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Doing your best to pretend there never was a Bobby Jindal and he had no adverse impact on the brand in La.?


What you're doing is admitting you don't have a message. Bobby Jindal is over. He was over four years ago. And like Sentrius said, Jindal played an active role in torpedoing Vitter's campaign, which is something that won't be the case for either Doc or Eddie this time.

To bring this discussion back to what it was originally about, what JBE just did was to put to bed any argument over whether he owns F. King Alexander. He does. And that's going to either be a political albatross around his neck with a big chunk of Louisiana's swing voters, or it's going to be embarrassing for him when he jettisons King this summer.

Should have kept his mouth shut. Doc and Eddie are both going to harp on the crappy leadership at LSU which isn't fixed yet and they're going to hang King on JBE.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:50 pm to
It's a fact that the last Democratic governor left a $2 billion surplus. It was 8 years of a supposedly so-called conservative Republican Governor named Jindal that turned that surplus into a $2 billion deficit. Jindal blew through $4 billion and we have no roads, bridges, or anything else to show for it. Now you want to criticize JBE for picking up the pieces and trying to right a sinking financial ship. Give me break. JBE will be re-elected this fall, and he won't break a sweat running for re-election.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14440 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:52 pm to
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jbe will be out of office very soon.


Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Jindal played an active role in torpedoing Vitter's campaign, which is something that won't be the case for either Doc or Eddie this time.


I fully believe that our republican federal delegation like Senator Cassidy and US Congressmen and the state party organization leadership as well should've been more forceful in calling out Jindal for his machinations against Vitter.

That they didn't do that was a dereliction of leadership and duty to better inform the Louisiana voting public of what was really going on behind the scenes.

And it's not like it was too dangerous to do so as Jindal's numbers were completely in the shitter and he had no capital to fight such allegations.

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what JBE just did was to put to bed any argument over whether he owns F. King Alexander. He does. And that's going to either be a political albatross around his neck with a big chunk of Louisiana's swing voters, or it's going to be embarrassing for him when he jettisons King this summer.



Correct.

I'm very happy with this news today. We need all the help we can get towards defeating JBE.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60704 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:53 pm to
Of course. They're both loyal soldiers of the Democratic Party.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:56 pm to
Jesus, you sure have swallowed the koolaid.

JBE inherited a $25 billion budget and blew it up to $35 billion in four years while taxing the state's economy into a recession, and you think that constitutes good management?

You must be one of the idiots who went with LaToylet to Cuba to see what cool stuff the Cubans could teach New Orleans about how to run a place.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

It's a fact that the last Democratic governor left a $2 billion surplus.


I'm sure a windfall of Katrina money from the feds had nothing to do with that at all.

quote:

Now you want to criticize JBE for picking up the pieces and trying to right a sinking financial ship.


JBE brags about having a surplus of tax dollars while 1700 families lost a job this past year.

From a few days ago. The Advocate: Louisiana sheds 1,700 jobs over 12 months through March, with biggest hit in construction
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11340 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:03 pm to
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