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re: Jay Williams say Kentucky should still be on a winning streak

Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58589 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 12:17 pm to
the goal vibrates, you are wrong.

Look at the replay again, the entire goal vibrates from Kentcucky touching it.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Not only had it already come off the rim, but also most of the ball was already out of the cylinder. Less than a quarter of the ball was still considered in, and it always on its way out.
you're right, but the current rule is it's inteference if ANY part of the ball is still in the cylinder.

I think the rule should be changed to be like the international rule, where interference is allowed once the ball has touched the rim, but under the current rule, it was interference on Bigby Williams.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96879 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:07 pm to
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And you're dead wrong, the backboard wasn't shaking and Mays' shot wasn't going in regardless.


If you really think the backboard wasn't shaking you can't be helped.
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
2135 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:10 pm to
If even ahalf an inch of the ball is over the rim that is considered in the cylinder.

I’d really love for the NCAA and the NBA to adopt international rules where you can grab if over the rim. It would eliminate shite like this totally.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:25 pm to
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Anyone watching saw Ky go over the back in desperation with ten or less seconds left only to see the ref eat his whistle. We all saw Waters and Smart get hammered and no call.
I get so weary of LSU fans claiming the refs are cheating, in football and now in basketball.

It's childish. I have a friend who refs basketball, and he rose to the small college level. It's an immense amount of work, and it takes years to rise above high school games.

Once I understood how long and hard referees work to rise to the level of SEC officials, I knew the concept of "cheating refs" is nonsensical.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:28 pm to
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the goal vibrates, you are wrong.

Look at the replay again, the entire goal vibrates from Kentcucky touching it.


so you want the refs to award a basket, in a tie game at the very end of regulation, because a player hits the backboard and it shakes a little?

Honestly?

To test your integrity, flip the teams. How would you react if it was Kentucky shooting that last shot and Naz hit the backboard?

What if the refs awarded 2 points to UK on that kind of play?

You'd go BALLISTIC!!! And rightfully so, because no game should be decided on such a technicality.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96879 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:40 pm to
So last page people who said the goal was shaking were dead wrong. Now you're argument is it's too ticky tacky to call.

Stick with one bad argument please.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22784 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:52 pm to
This whole deal should be an illustration that not only LSU fans complain about calls like this bird would like you to believe
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:55 pm to
Kentucky fans on SEC Rant are on to melt day 5.

You'd never know they just beat the #1 team from their incessant crying over the LSU loss.

What a pathetic and entitled fanbase
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175895 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 1:57 pm to
I’d go ballistic because an LSU player was an idiot and put his hand through the hoop, slapped that backboard, and shook the goal.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104546 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:09 pm to
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So last page people who said the goal was shaking were dead wrong.

Regardless of wanting defensive goaltending or denfensive interference or not, the backboard was unequivocally swaying back and forth after the ball went in. That part is not up for debate. The video clearly shows it.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96879 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:13 pm to
Oh you don't have to convince me. Like you, I can see things that are 100% clear.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104546 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:25 pm to
Well, shite. Sorry, I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying it wasn't moving instead of that it was someone else saying it. My fault.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 2:50 pm to
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because a player hits the backboard and it shakes a little?
You posted the goal didn't shake, and I think you're just being contrarian.

quote:

so you want the refs to award a basket, in a tie game at the very end of regulation......................no game should be decided on such a technicality.
Hmmm, no LSU points for UK defensive tending, but disallow LSU basket for offensive tending.
You might hate LSU more than Jay Williams.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Hmmm, no LSU points for UK defensive tending, but disallow LSU basket for offensive tending.
You might hate LSU more than Jay Williams.

no, I love LSU. I'm just not a blind homer, like so many on this board.

Did the board shake? Maybe so, but I don't want the refs to decide a game (even if it's in our favor) on such a technicality. Now if a defender hangs on the rim and makes the board violently shake, then that's another issue. But a slap on the backboard? No, I don't want to win like that,and no ref is going to ever make that call.

As for Bigby Williams, it was clearly in the cylinder. I can be an LSU fan and still admit that. Again, I LOVE the win. We played very well on the road and deserve the W.

But I'm not a blind homer.

And by the way, I hate that rule and hope it gets changed to the internatonal rule. But that doesn't mean I'm blind to the fact that it was basket interference on us.
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by dwariley
Member since Jun 2016
609 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 3:30 pm to
Vitale said that it was a good tip.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Vitale said that it was a good tip.
sorry, but if you think that tip was legal (under the current rule), you really are a blind homer.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
787 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 6:05 pm to
I think you are missing the point. The LSU tip probably wasn’t legal by strict application of the rule, but it was close enough that they typically don’t call it.

The UK defensive basket interference was not legal by strict application of the rule but they typically don’t call it.

But if you are going to strictly apply the rule and use replay, sure go to the replay and call everything. LSU still scores because the interference happened before the tip.

But how things are typically called, it’s a good no call all the way around.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 8:25 pm to
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But how things are typically called, it’s a good no call all the way around.
this, i agree with.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19799 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 8:29 pm to
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Kentucky fans on SEC Rant are on to melt day 5. You'd never know they just beat the #1 team from their incessant crying over the LSU loss. What a pathetic and entitled fanbase
careful with the name calling. I seem to recall a fair amount of bitching and moaning on this board about some calls in a loss in College Station a couple months ago.
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