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re: Jalen Cook transferring?

Posted on 4/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34108 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 3:27 pm to
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I guess I just disagree, Cook was a true freshman and showed some real promise IMO. He got after it on defense, and to me showed flashes of being a true pg, one that can pass and run an offense later in his carrier. Pinson looks more like a SF and I'm not really sure where gains fits in the starting rotation , he seems like he would be best suited as an energy guy off the bench unless he can better develop his 3


I thought Cook showed some flashes. But size (height) was/is going to be an issue. Between the two I though Gaines showed more flashes (of course, he was given more opportunity to show those flashes). I'm not that concerned about Gaines's poor shooting right now. He showed flashes of great court vision (frankly better than any other player on the team, including Smart) and potential to becoming a playmaking PG more in the mold of Waters vs. Smart (who was more of a scorer/shooter). He also, while thin, has more desirable physical traits when compared to Cook. Most notably tremendous length and more explosive athleticism. Maybe the best example was the putback vs. Arkansas in the SECT where he circled under the goal and hung in the air for the putback. LSU had some great players this year. But there were only a few on the roster with the athleticism to make such a play.

That's not to say Cook isn't a good player. In a perfect world both would stay and develop. But that's not how it is done in CBB right now. Not just at LSU. There are hundreds (maybe more) of players looking to change teams. But if you are asking me to compare the two I think Gaines has more potential upside.

I understand while Cook may want to leave and pursue a better opportunity elsewhere. I also understand while Wade wants more experience at the guard spot. CBB has truly become a year to year sport with tremendous roster turnover. That makes it hard for coaches to wait for young players to develop when the other schools you compete with are all going get experienced players to step in right away.

I think we just have to accept that with the transfer action being what it is now incoming freshmen are essentially on year to year "tryouts". The HC is under pressure to "win now" so if he can find an experienced, better player from another school to come in and help him do that, that is what he is likely to do...even if it comes at the expense of younger guys who haven't quite had the chance to develop as players. That's just kind of the harsh reality right now.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15280 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:32 pm to
Probably for the best. He didn’t seem to be an sec level player.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8729 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:38 pm to
That seems a bit harsh. I’m not sure he has the upside to become an all-SEC player but he would have contributed a good amount here in the next year or two.
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5567 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 4:42 pm to
Definitely had some skill. He was active defensively.

If Wade trades Cook for Adam Miller though you do that 100/100 times.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 4:44 pm
Posted by slapnuts74
Nuttsville
Member since Jan 2019
591 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 5:00 pm to
Stop posting you moron
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 5:04 pm to
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The Pirate King
shut the frick up
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14111 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 5:52 pm to
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Definitely had some skill. He was active defensively.



Preseason, Wade was impressed with Cook.
Maybe Cook decided it was in his best interest to find another/better opportunity and decided to transfer.
Maybe Wade knew Cooks intentions and found a replacement.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17048 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:14 pm to
Agreed. I love his defense and I think he’s going to be a great player for us. But for some people on here acting like he was anything but below average offensively last year is just foolish. Some offensive growth from him next year would be huge
Posted by Starcrunch37
Member since Apr 2021
115 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:24 pm to
Yes I dunno why bc he would start next year
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4536 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:45 pm to
Cook will do well at La tech or another mid major. He was never going to be anything more than a role player here.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66509 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:06 pm to
Another disturbing trend under Wade. Trying to turn 2 guards into point guards every year instead of going with natural point guards will continue to have us looking more like 2020-21 and less like 2018-19.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34108 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:09 pm to
I think Gaines has the POTENTIAL to be a really good PG in the mold of Ja Morant (and no, I’m not saying Gaines will be a top 5 draft pick. Just a similar type of body, in college, and skill set)
Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2398 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:14 pm to
This is the new norm. We all might as well get used to it. The portal is destroying collegiate athletics.

I up voted 1000 times but only one registered.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66509 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:23 pm to
I think he has potential too but as a slasher type or smaller TQ. He doesn’t have point guard instincts, he’s incredibly late on easy passes in transition which ruined a bunch of advantaged breaks during the season and he makes bad decisions on drives because he’s out of control. He’s just not a point guard and maybe he can go from bad to great at the position in one year but when you already have a better one in Cook why go through possibly years of growing pains and for what? We lost a good one last year and now another and just like the bigs what will happen is they’ll start to avoid LSU all together and we’ll be in constant flux. I love Wade and usually by the end of the season he gets it right but we give up too much ground and too much seeding while he’s tinkering. The blue print is already there, the SEC championship team we had in year 2, so why does he fight that model tooth and nail every year?
Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
758 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:34 pm to
Size. And length.
Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
758 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:36 pm to
Reid has been offered. A long time ago.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:03 pm to
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boy look i am the best at what i am doing with my 14 year old cousin and i am old enough to know more about basketball than any of you on this board. basketball is simple and some of you are simple minded.. you want some facts i can teach that to you on jefferson highway where the hoops are and you will be crying after i finished with the skills i teach you.. wade can learn something from me
I was going to say "STOP embarrassing yourself, dude!", but I realized this is just a BS post by somebody who's bored. Well done, you got me. I bit on the BS and the joke is definitely on me.
If I'm wrong about the origins of your posts and you really are trying to present sincere thoughts, then you should keep your mouth shut about what you're doing with your 14 year old cousin, Jerry Lee Lewis.
And stop upvoting your own gawd awful blather, Fool!
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:20 pm to
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Wow....just wow
No kidding.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:26 pm to

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Reid has been offered. A long time ago.

Got anything on Tre Mitchell?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26275 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 12:36 am to
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He was never going to be anything more than a role player here.

If that was the case, then it would be a failure in recruiting on Wade's part. Although Wade has a tendency to oversell his players' skill levels at times, he said before the season that he thought in a year or two that LSU would have one of the elite backcourts in America with Cook and Gaines playing together and he called Cook the best on-ball defender he has seen since the guy he had at VCU who finished 2nd in the NCAA as the all-time steals leader. Even if he was overselling him, he clearly has thought that Cook has great potential.

We are in a different time though with the instant transfer stuff.
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