- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Jalen Collins says Les Miles and LSU sabotaged his chances of becoming a higher draft pick
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:15 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:15 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Eh, this is mostly about the text response.
Collins had already spent 4 years in the program & commanded a high draft grade. Miles is a piece of shite for acting like that.
A. That's assuming Miles actually sent that text and that Collins didn't just have a buddy send it to him under the name "Coach" or something to that effect. Which is really easy to do.
B. Even if the text was legit, you could interpret it a number of different ways. Collins, others, maybe you, have chosen to interpret it in a vindictive way. "It will be costly," could easily mean, "Hey, I think you've made the wrong choice and it's going to cost you in the long run."
1
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:45 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:
Collins, others, maybe you, have chosen to interpret it in a vindictive way. "It will be costly," could easily mean, "Hey, I think you've made the wrong choice and it's going to cost you in the long run."
It’s still ignorant because the guy had a 1st rd grade. There’s no reason to show any negativity if you are Miles
If it’s a fake text, shame on him. For entertainment purposes I am going to assume it’s real
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:53 am to Geaux2LSU
quote:
A person that is supposed to have your back sabotaged his draft and cost him money. For what daring to leave early? For smoking a plant? Miles is a c$ck for doing that.
So Les is supposed to lie on his behalf? If Les lies for Collins, he's actively hurting the draft prospects of future players, because his word will no longer mean anything. Your comment is the dumbest fricking shite i've ever heard.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:57 am to Lester Earl
quote:
It’s still ignorant because the guy had a 1st rd grade. There’s no reason to show any negativity if you are Miles
Dude yes there *is*. If a team asks about Collins having off-field issues and les lies, then the player goes on to have off-field issues, that team is never going to trust a word he says again. Which means that the draft stock of future players who *dont* have off-field issues is going to be hurt.
Les didn't say anything that wasn't the truth. If you want NFL people to listen to you when you talk about your players, you gotta shoot em straight. If you think that every college coach is saying 100% only good stuff about his players every year, then you simply don't understand how this process works. If a college coach wants to be believed when he talks up his players, he has to be honest about his players' faults. You're saying that les should have sacrificed future players' draft stock in order to protect Collins's draft stock. That's bullshite.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:09 am to LifeAquatic
Did you even read what I wrote? I didn’t say anything about Les divulging information to NFL teams.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:11 am to LSUTigers_00
Jalen's got a point though.
Look at this bull shite article. It was so bad a reporter didn't want to put his name on it.
I feel like the NFL slips ESPN a grand or two to run these type of stories to bring Jalen's value down. It's a good investment from the NFL perspective and VERY unethical on ESPN's part.
Look at this bull shite article. It was so bad a reporter didn't want to put his name on it.
I feel like the NFL slips ESPN a grand or two to run these type of stories to bring Jalen's value down. It's a good investment from the NFL perspective and VERY unethical on ESPN's part.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:21 am to GumboPot
As much as Collins wants to believe that Miles is responsible for that leaking, it’s just not how that works.
If 18teams know about it, then the media is going to find out about it & report it. It’s anonymous because the teams can’t be on the hook for that either. I’m like 98% sure Les Miles is not that unnamed source.
If 18teams know about it, then the media is going to find out about it & report it. It’s anonymous because the teams can’t be on the hook for that either. I’m like 98% sure Les Miles is not that unnamed source.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:24 am to LSUTigers_00
quote:
During interviews at the combine, 18 teams interviewed him about his problem with weed.
quote:
information about him failing multiple drug tests
Shouldn't your future employer have access to info like this?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:24 am to Lester Earl
quote:
I’m like 98% sure Les Miles is not that unnamed source.
pretty sure Miles leaked the story of La'el before the draft, he hates LSU
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:27 am to 777Tiger
I don’t think people realize how infiltrated the media is in the draft process. Go to mobile for the Sr bowl or Indy for the combine. They are leeches, all looking for the next big story
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:28 am to Lester Earl
quote:
As much as Collins wants to believe that Miles is responsible for that leaking, it’s just not how that works.
If 18teams know about it, then the media is going to find out about it & report it. It’s anonymous because the teams can’t be on the hook for that either. I’m like 98% sure Les Miles is not that unnamed source.
Well Collins did make a MAJOR non sequitur in his reasoning. Just because Miles was disappointed in him leaving early as indicated in this text messages doesn't mean Miles is ESPN's source.
But it is bull shite that no reporter at ESPN will take responsibility for that article. If the information is true they should have no problems standing behind the article. But they hide.
That's not right.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:31 am to Lester Earl
quote:
They are leeches, all looking for the next big story
and the pressure to be first to get a story out leaves no time for fact checking
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:31 am to LSUnation78
That was the hardest video to get through. 7 mins of bullshite and said probably 3 things worth a shite, not to mention saying the n word every other word.
How can anyone listen to them?
How can anyone listen to them?
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:39 am to GumboPot
They don’t take responsibility because whomever is feeding them info will cut them off.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:39 am to hg
quote:
That was the hardest video to get through. 7 mins of bullshite and said probably 3 things worth a shite, not to mention saying the n word every other word.
How can anyone listen to them?
Who was the guy left of Collins?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 9:41 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Did you even read what I wrote? I didn’t say anything about Les divulging information to NFL teams.
Ah, my bad. When you said:
quote:
There’s no reason to show any negativity if you are Miles
I thought you were saying "there's no reason to tell NFL teams anything negative". I didn't realize that the comment you were responding to was dealing with the text message. Sorry if I was overly hostile--I misunderstood what you were saying. Hand up.
Though I think I would still disagree to some extent. If les thought that Collins wouldn't be able to hack it in the NFL without another year of development, I think it's reasonable for him to say "you're making a mistake". Now, I am personally of the mindset that anyone who can get taken in the top 2 rounds should go pro, because you only have so much time to make your money, so I personally wouldn't have advised against him entering the draft--but it's hard to say les was wrong given that Collins *did* wash out without even getting a second contract.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
quote:
It’s still ignorant because the guy had a 1st rd grade. There’s no reason to show any negativity if you are Miles
If it’s a fake text, shame on him. For entertainment purposes I am going to assume it’s real
It's the main reason I question the validity of both the text and the story. Les Miles was 100% on the "give us 3 years and we'll get you to the NFL" line of thinking.
Why would he have singled out Collins to treat differently? Correct me if I'm wrong, but under Miles LSU had the most juniors/players with eligibility remaining go to the NFL.
I know there are other players that have made comments that Miles may have undercut them, but it just doesn't pass the smell test.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:13 pm to 777Tiger
quote:
pretty sure Miles leaked the story of La'el before the draft, he hates LSU
This makes no sense. I don't think Les hates LSU now, and I damn sure don't think he hated LSU in 2015 when La'el was headed to the draft.
La'el was a model player by all accounts, a team leader and one of those guys who actually stayed all 4 years. A first round OL would've been the type of thing Les could sell to recruits.
Page 6 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News