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re: Jack Walker throws a no hitter vs Denham Springs
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:43 am to lsu777
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:43 am to lsu777
Right about Glens kids- the oldest signed with LSU then took the money and went pro ball,,
Biggest reason LSU loses kids in state- they are close enough to really know what goes on. The out of state kids only see LSU from a distance,, no real idea what a cluster it really is. As far as pitcher development- scouts push kids to Vanderbilt, Miss state, Louisville, even Wake Forest,, Who wants to come to LSU and because Paul doesn't like you pitch 20 innings a year?
Look at the pitchers on the team who after 4-5 years have gotten no better than when they stepped on campus..
Biggest reason LSU loses kids in state- they are close enough to really know what goes on. The out of state kids only see LSU from a distance,, no real idea what a cluster it really is. As far as pitcher development- scouts push kids to Vanderbilt, Miss state, Louisville, even Wake Forest,, Who wants to come to LSU and because Paul doesn't like you pitch 20 innings a year?
Look at the pitchers on the team who after 4-5 years have gotten no better than when they stepped on campus..
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:12 am to lsu777
I agree that on the field results matter. That’s my whole point. You and Ell are mad because we are missing out on a nationally ranked player. We have been getting nationally ranked players for years and look at where we are now. It seems as though the problem isn’t that we are missing out on kids like Jack Walker, because we are. It’s that we aren’t developing them.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:16 am to lsu777
Look I’m not happy with how the baseball program is going either. I hope Paul is encouraged to retire at the end of the year and we can get a great new coach. I’m just saying the point of this thread is that we are missing out on tons of talent. We aren’t. We have talent we just need to do a much better job at developing them
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:17 am to LSBoosie
There’s something to be said about getting the best local talent. Yes you need out of state guys but if the locals don’t want to play for you, you have a real problem. That’s what I’m highlighting here.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:22 am to ell_13
We're getting Stevenson next year, though, so there's that.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:28 am to ell_13
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but if the locals don’t want to play for you, you have a real problem.
We have 3 or 4 of his HS teammates committed and probably a dozen of his summer teammates committed.
I don't think you can say absolutely that not getting some in state kids is indicative of a problem within the program.
We know there are problems within the program, this just feels like stretching to find another one.
Especially when we don't know the scholarship distribution of LSU or any other team. If everyone were on a full ride and money was taken out of the equation, then you can have a more clear picture.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:29 am to DRock88
Hopefully he won’t need summer ball to become a good hitter at LSU and the staff here can actually help him develop.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:31 am to ProjectP2294
quote:Thats a fair point. And he’s the best player on that team imo. His stuff is ready for college. Hell, he may not make it to college. But he’s on that edge like Marceaux was and I think we could have gotten him had we done things differently.
Especially when we don't know the scholarship distribution of LSU or any other team. If everyone were on a full ride and money was taken out of the equation, then you can have a more clear picture.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:37 am to ell_13
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Hell, he may not make it to college. But he’s on that edge like Marceaux
Which makes this much more reasonable than the people bitching about the kid from Haughton committed to Arkansas that won't ever step on campus.
ETA: People will also bitch about Ben Kudrna who is going to be a first round pick and won't make it here. But that's dumb too because sometimes guys just develop at the very right time for the draft. And he's one of them (like Blayne Enlow was).
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:50 am to ell_13
What local talent has LSU not gotten that they actually wanted? Seriously curious.
Project may know since he keeps up with recruiting. Help us project
Project may know since he keeps up with recruiting. Help us project
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:53 am to Naptime
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What local talent has LSU not gotten that they actually wanted? Seriously curious
You're asking a question that you know is impossible to answer and that's bullshite.
Baseball recruiting information isn't nearly as public as other sports.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:55 am to ProjectP2294
I honestly don’t know of many that LSU has missed on that they recruited hard.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:57 am to Naptime
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I honestly don’t know of many that LSU has missed on that they recruited hard.
Because there is no publicly available information on who they are recruiting pretty much until the kid commits.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:59 am to sports101
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This board will go wild if both Jack Walkers from Louisiana turn out to be studs and we missed on both.
Get ready. Jack will be a thorn in the side of many SEC hitters for the next 3-4 years. His stuff is that good. Literally no-hit type stuff every time he takes the mound. Velocity with LOTS of movement and total command. 5A may be down alittle this year, but no-hitting 5A teams is still an outstanding feat, let's not down play such an accomplishment.
With regards to recruiting, so many kids are getting offered now before they even play an inning of varsity high school baseball. When Jack committed back then, he showed tremendous potential, but he was not the pitcher he is today. Wish the NCAA would create a rule prohibiting teams from offering kids that early, the college coaches have even asked for it to make themselves stop doing it.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:00 am to LSUfanNkaty
quote:It's nothing like that. When he said Barbe only won 3-0 he's referring to the comment about not needing Walker that anyone on the team could have won that game. Barbe only won 3-0, so even though DS may not be too good on this day the needed Walker.
But it's also like his third no hitter this year... let's not down play this too much simply because Denham is bad
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:07 am to ell_13
Thought I heard he was La Tech commit, but I could be thinking of someone else
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:07 am to tjtiger9
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Thought I heard he was La Tech commit, but I could be thinking of someone else
Different Jack Walker. You're referring to Todd's son.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:10 am to ProjectP2294
Ok, thank you! Didn’t realize there were two of them
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:41 am to DRock88
Are we going to sit here and pretend that Nolan Cain isn't the head of recruiting and Pawl is?
FWIW Theriot has said that if you don't get in with a kid early now-a-days, it's really hard to get him to flip. Seems like LSU hasn't been prioritizing young talent in state like they seem able to do out of state.
FWIW Theriot has said that if you don't get in with a kid early now-a-days, it's really hard to get him to flip. Seems like LSU hasn't been prioritizing young talent in state like they seem able to do out of state.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:45 am to OnDaLake
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Seems like LSU hasn't been prioritizing young talent in state like they seem able to do out of state.
The first commit in the 2024 class was at Barbe until the hurricanes moved him out of state.
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