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re: I've supported McMahon from the start, but I'm done.

Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:55 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38248 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:55 am to
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I consider myself a realistic fan, therefore I've been very patient, but enough is enough.


I'm generally realistic and if anything a bit of a pumper. But I have thrown in the towel. I'm still going to watch, still going to root for the team, but I want another coach.

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I've also told fans clamoring to bring back Will Wade that they're crazy.


It is not realistic, even if it is an understandable desire.

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Many believe that ain't happening, but the more I consider the possibility, why not? I thought for sure that by now he'd have moved on to a bigger and better program, but he's right here, still, in our own backyard. I'm now on the bring back Will Wade wagon!!!



I would love it, but I ain't holding my breath
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38248 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:58 am to
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What he did is meaningless since NIL started.


At least one thing he did is still against the rules but the NCAA seems to be neutered to the point of being useless for rule enforcement.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38248 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:00 am to
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McMahon probably has his agent shopping around for another mid major job where he belongs



UL Lafayette is looking for a MBB coach.

Maybe we could just trade him to McNeese
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38248 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:02 am to
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He’d be perfect here but he’s probably done. He’s 71, I strongly doubt it.



I wonder if Billy Donovan is interested in coming back to college basketball.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59416 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:08 am to
He would be an outstanding hire for us but I haven’t seen any news on if he’s been asked on a general level about returning to college. People don’t talk much about it but because of football changing the landscape of college sports, every SEC job is an attractive job moving forward. Our problem in that regard is we’re way behind most SEC schools in terms of infrastructure for the basketball program.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16574 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:14 am to
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I say shoot for the moon and get Bruce Pearl


I'd say tPear is the bastard son of Bruce Pearl. tPear made a Sweet 16 (don't even try the semantics here he was still coaching that team) at a younger age than Pearl when Pearl made his first, and Pearl did not make an elite 8 until the age of 50 and did not make his only final four until the age of 59 - T Pear is only 42 now!!

Just sayin :)
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2682 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:32 am to
I defended MM his first 2 years. Especially the crazies who wanted him fired the 1st year. I do believe having Reed on this team probably gets them 3-4 more wins total this year. I felt they competed with AL and Auburn and based on that should have resulted in some wins against the bottom half of the league. But there is no excuse for getting rolled by TX at home and GA on the road. They just don't have an offensive identity and they don't have that one dominant player they can count on. Cam has been on and off and if he is off where is your scoring coming from. One game they rebound the next they don't. The one thing that has disappointed me the whole time is we haven't really had an SEC caliber PG in any of his seasons. Whether Givens would end up being that remains to be seen but he isn't now nor is Sears or Williams. Can't win without that. Chest is an incredible athlete but he has no BBall IQ. And there is a talent gap between LSU and the rest of the league. Not sure if they are ready to do a buyout but if they don't he better get some SEC talent in the portal and he would need to keep his incoming class and Miller, Chest, Collins, Reed and Miller who I think can improve with experience, S&G and a competent PG which will be the key to any improvement next year.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32107 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:48 am to
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Especially the crazies who wanted him fired the 1st year.


The "crazies" saw the massive coaching issues in year 1. It's just the others are starting to finally see them as well. The signs were there. While that year 1 team wasn't great, they should have been WAY better that the results they actually achieved. The same issues he had then are the same ones he's having now.

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The one thing that has disappointed me the whole time is we haven't really had an SEC caliber PG in any of his seasons


Perhaps that has everything to do with coaching. That is no PG can really succeed under McMahon in the SEC. For years in football we heard the same thing about Les and QBs. But the reality was no QB could have great success under Les's really bad offensive approach. McMahon has now had 6 or 7 PGs in 3 years. None have been successful. Do you think that is simply because McMahon has been unfortunate in his search for a PG? Or maybe the issue is the ONE constant in that equation.

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Not sure if they are ready to do a buyout but if they don't he better get some SEC talent in the portal and he would need to keep his incoming class and Miller, Chest, Collins, Reed and Miller who I think can improve with experience, S&G and a competent PG which will be the key to any improvement next year.


Bad coaches can make good players look bad. Great coaches can make average players look good. LSU has several players on their roster who were top 100 recruits coming out of HS. More than a lot of other SEC teams who have had WAY more success than McMahon. If he were just getting a bunch of 3 star guys and some undersized/unheralded mid-major transfers it would be one thing. He's not. It's been the worst of both worlds. Evidently he needs 3-4 years to develop HS signees...in a world where those guys don't generally stay that long. However, he can't maximize the upperclassmen transfers who are only here for a year or two. It's a recipe for exactly what it has been. shite.

The staff has flipped considerable over 3 seasons. The rosters have flipped even more. Yet, the results stay the same. At that point you have to look at the constants. And there is really only one.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32107 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:55 am to
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I'd say tPear is the bastard son of Bruce Pearl. tPear made a Sweet 16 (don't even try the semantics here he was still coaching that team) at a younger age than Pearl when Pearl made his first, and Pearl did not make an elite 8 until the age of 50 and did not make his only final four until the age of 59 - T Pear is only 42 now!!

Just sayin :)


Wade wasn't all that well liked by other SEC coaches. That's because he was brash and didn't particularly give a shite if the other coaches liked him or not. He was going to do what he had to do win...at all costs. The one HC he did get along really well with was Pearl. They had a mutual respect for one another. Likely because Pearl had a similar path and mindset as Wade. Like Wade, Pearl didn't play college basketball. Hell, neither even played HS basketball. Also like Pearl, Wade started his college basketball career coaching career as a student assistant. Both are unabashedly passionate.

While Wade doesn't have quite the personality as Pearl, in many, MANY ways they are very similar.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75480 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:57 am to
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For the first time in about a month, I actually watched some of the game tonight.


It’s unwatchable. I get brave enough to take a brief look every few weeks or so and quickly remember how bad the product is.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6188 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:08 am to
I remember talking to a big "in the know" guy before WW was fired and he made it extremely clear that SW didn't like Wade at all and wanted him gone.

I would do anything to get him back, but I don't think it would happen. If SW cared at all and wanted to sell tickets that would get just about everybody back on board.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9802 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 12:11 pm to
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But there is no excuse for getting rolled by TX at home and GA on the road.

They were only down by 6 at halftime on the road in the sec. How is that not “competing”?
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3892 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:23 pm to
The NCAA has had ZERO JUICE in enforcing penalties for at least the last 10 years.

Our administration hasn't learned this obviously. Plenty of other schools have in that time span, the latest being Mich in their response to the NOA they were served with recently.

The NCAA can't, and won't do ANYTHING to Mich other than a token slap on the wrist to save a little face. If only those in charge for us had a set of balls like that.
Posted by BIG CAT
louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
3750 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:27 pm to
I’m sure he’s a good coach, but sometimes it just doesn’t work out. I wish him good luck
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82171 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:34 pm to
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T Pear is only 42 now!!


young. he could return to LSU and coach for 30 more years.

sad scott will not allow it after his shitastic hire of MM
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4686 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:03 am to
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We have very little SEC-level talent.


Wrong.

McMahon has kept his job by recruiting talent. He is actually s good recruiter, Ja Morant is his leverage.

He just cant coach for shite.
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