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I've changed my mind on BK.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:56 pm
Most of my biggest fears about him have been significantly allayed after doing actual research on the statistical performance of his teams. I melted when it was first announced out of 1) ignorance and 2) an expectation that we would hire someone who can call plays.
Do I still have problems with him? Yes. Really not excited about the offense he usually produces. Worried about the rumors concerning lazy recruiting in the past. But I also think he is the outside force we need to erase the culture of the program that has been there since Miles. No more NFLSU, no more opting out, no more quitters, no more overly emotional teams, no more having your freshmen play harder than your juniors, no more hiring coordinators without interviewing them, no more softness in general.
If that's what we're getting then we are about to win big. I am ready to eat crow.
Do I still have problems with him? Yes. Really not excited about the offense he usually produces. Worried about the rumors concerning lazy recruiting in the past. But I also think he is the outside force we need to erase the culture of the program that has been there since Miles. No more NFLSU, no more opting out, no more quitters, no more overly emotional teams, no more having your freshmen play harder than your juniors, no more hiring coordinators without interviewing them, no more softness in general.
If that's what we're getting then we are about to win big. I am ready to eat crow.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:02 pm
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:57 pm to Tigerlaff
I think most people who melted at first, melted because they hate Notre Dame at heart.
But when you look at the facts objectively, we've got a HELL of a coach.
But when you look at the facts objectively, we've got a HELL of a coach.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:59 pm to Tigerlaff
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:00 pm to Tigerlaff
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Really not excited about the offense he usually produces.
I'm still not sure if that's not because of the players he had while at ND. When he was at Cincy he had high flying wide open offenses.
Louisiana puts out skill position players in spades, I have faith Kelly will know how to utilize them
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:00 pm to LSURep864
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I think most people who melted at first, melted because they hate Notre Dame at heart.
Guilty. I've never been so impressed with ND teams that I felt covetous of their coaching. But I also haven't spent any time actually learning about what they have accomplished and what they did well. Just straight up ignorance.
Happy to have a competent adult in charge again.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:00 pm to LSURep864
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I think most people who melted at first, melted because they hate Notre Dame at heart.
And his record versus top 10 teams
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:03 pm to Tigerlaff
This hire will put us right where we, the LSU family, want and deserve to be in CFB. We’re headed back to the top of the SEC and country consistently. He is a man’s man, imo. He will stand behind LSU and our program and will force us to be respected again. No antics, business. His recruiting will go out the roof without the academic qualifications he has faced. I’m looking forward to those recruiting numbers shift and improve for LSU before NSD. It’s gonna be a fun ride, glad Woodward came through!
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:06 pm to Tigerlaff
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no more having your freshmen play harder than your juniors
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:07 pm to Tigerlaff
I agree with almost all your points and believe Kelly is a great coach.
But, we still need this moniker
If they leave in 3 years thats just modern day football. I understand your point, but recruiting and developing NFL talent no matter if they stay 3 or 4 years is most important.
Lsu is #2 in producing LSU talent which is an indication of program success. Kelly has his own success producing NFL with 38 players in the NFL. I believe they are 4th or 5th.
One of the most exciting things about Kelly is his 10 offensive lineman he has in the NFL. Imagine LSU producing its normal amount of skill positions and defensive NFL players with more NFL Oline talent coming thru the program. That is something to get excited over.
But, we still need this moniker
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No more NFLSU
If they leave in 3 years thats just modern day football. I understand your point, but recruiting and developing NFL talent no matter if they stay 3 or 4 years is most important.
Lsu is #2 in producing LSU talent which is an indication of program success. Kelly has his own success producing NFL with 38 players in the NFL. I believe they are 4th or 5th.
One of the most exciting things about Kelly is his 10 offensive lineman he has in the NFL. Imagine LSU producing its normal amount of skill positions and defensive NFL players with more NFL Oline talent coming thru the program. That is something to get excited over.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:09 pm to Tigerlaff
I'm warming up to him as well. My concern was never his coaching ability it was his off-the-field persona and somewhat his age. I was concerned that he may not have the energy and fire in the belly but that does not seem to be a concern based on what I am seeing/hearing. I worried that his disciplined/no nonsense/call you out for poor performance style will require a lot of change in the current culture of the team from the last 2 coaches. Does he have the patience and drive to see it through to develop and restore a culture of "team", commitment, and work ethic? I think he does.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:10 pm to Tigerlaff
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an expectation that we would hire someone who can call plays.
He will be running “his” offense. Whether he calls the plays or not, it will be “his” offense. Much like Bama is running Sagan’s defense.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:11 pm to PoppaD
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One of the most exciting things about Kelly is his 10 offensive lineman he has in the NFL. Imagine LSU producing its normal amount of skill positions and defensive NFL players with more NFL Oline talent coming thru the program. That is something to get excited over.
Hell yes.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:13 pm to PoppaD
Agree. The NFL needs to be a mere part of a bigger picture you are selling. It can't be the whole picture.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:16 pm to LSURep864
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I think most people who melted at first, melted because they hate Notre Dame at heart.
I dont like to admit it but you can put my name on that list.
I didn't want him because all I could see was him on the ND sideline and the idiot in the Leprechaun suit.
NOW...Im 100% behind him. We needed a tough guy and he fills the bill.
Thats why i agree with,
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we've got a HELL of a coach.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:17 pm to Tigerlaff
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Worried about the rumors concerning lazy recruiting in the past.
Just not sure if that's as much on Kelly as it was pressure from ND to specifically recruit players from Catholic schools and having to tell 16-17 year old boys that in order to play there, there's a zero-tolerance policy on having premarital sex. Recruits have decommitted and been vocal before as for the sex ban being the reason for the decommittment. Sure say what you want about "oh they must not care that much about football" or whatever but it is what it is, a decommittment.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:23 pm to Tigerlaff
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I've changed my mind on BK.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:40 pm to Tigerlaff
Crow aint bad with Tabasco. I have to eat it on occasion for running my trap too
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:46 pm to Tigerlaff
Hiring coordinators should not be a concern when your the best coach in the room, O was never the best coach in the room.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:49 pm to Tigerlaff
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Really not excited about the offense he usually p
I think he has been limited by qb play
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erase the culture of the program that has been there since Miles. No more NFLSU, no more opting out, no more quitters,
I don't know if this is possible anymore
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:55 pm to Tigerlaff
I love a high powered offense like 2019. But having a good efficient offense that works well your defense is not a bad thing.
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