re: It was sad to see Tommy Moffit let go, but it was the right decision by Kelly

With advances in understanding how nutrition affects weight training, I would say he was no longer the best. Having guys destroying the training table and eating whatever they want and as much as they want will not produce modern players. Speed training and nutrition probably required a new direction because he produced guys who could bench a school bus

Should of been done years ago

And as others have said it’s Moffits own fault for being unwilling or unable to evolve. Bunch of legacy soft babies here.

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but in the latter years, the conditioning sure did leave a lot to be desired.

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it awlays left a lot to be desired and was my main gripe with TM. he was way too old school and said many times he didnt want to hear about energy systems. said he didnt give a frick what energy systems we used during games...he beleived things like the 16 110's conditioning test built mental toughness.

the new staff understands that conditioning does not build mental toughness and you should be using your sport as much as possible to get conditioing in. i would say they understand better than i have ever seen, its crazy how effecient they are in using that. to be fair to moffit he was workign with les and O the last 15 or so years so not exactly working with the brightest. but the new staff is killing it.

they also are using actual speed training and true agility training for conditioning when they actually need to do extra conditioning.

the strength training hasnt changed much. still using velocity based training as they should...little less olympic lifts and variations though as TM was a hatch disciple.

I love TM, but it was time for him to go if nothing more than to get a new voice in that kids would respond to. they were no longer responding to TM and in the last 2 seasons he had no backup from the HC so there was no discpline to adhering to the program.

as far as nutrition...biggest thing on that is they are being held accountable. they dont get to just go in the cafateria and order as many plates as they want and whatever they want.

Jake Flint is killing it on the small details, especially when it comes to recovery and he has a HC and a staff that supports that because they understand the value.

The times left him behind

It is indeed amazing how obvious the strength and conditioning improvement. You can literally see it.

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Tommy was a legend, and maybe it was past his time but as an old avid gym rat let me say that he invented the routine I use even today, and in his time he was the Man. He basically invented the 3 sets of 6 -15 Reps etc that is the standard

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this cant be real life

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I’ve heard all the players talk about not lifting as heavy like they did under Moffitt. Flint and his staff have brought in a new approach that focuses more on efficiency with their lifts and recovery.

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moffit was using VBT training too, not a ton has changed on that, atleast from his latter years. biggest difference is willingness to lighten load and focus solely on velocity(think classic westside barbell dynamic effort) and removing so much olympic lifting using med ball variations for speed and distance to increase power. power is plain specific and they are using med balls and other things to work specific plains without having to use so much olympic lifts

as far as the comment about TM being classic trainer only focusing on heavier and heavier weight from one of the otehr posters.....dude stfu you have no clue what you are talking about

i have made it clear now for years i didnt agree with TMs old school approach to conditioning, but lets be real he forgot more last week about S&C than 99.99% of us will ever know. and the shite sure as hell worked in 2019. biggest change is was lack of support from the head coach. that was not on tommy.

was it time for tommy to go...absolutely but he also works at the behest of the HC. HC sets direction and consequences and tells the S&C coach what kind of players he wants or what he feels each player needs to work on. Tm is a great man, an amazing strength coach but it was time for a new voice and new blood in the building....but dont think for a min he wasnt a great one or he suddenly is too dumb to coach because that is anything but the truth.

Love Moffit but he should have been replaced 5 years ago.

The game has changed. A 330 tackle is going to struggle with a guy like BJ or Perk. Agility and quickness are important and if a guy can get there without having a jelly belly or losing foot speed then he is fine. The linemen on both sides have appeared too fat for about the last ten years. Andolsek played at 285, Faneca 310, and Mawae at 290. Hines was pushing 350 as an interior, he should have been lighter

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The game has changed. A 330 tackle is going to struggle with a guy like BJ or Perk. Agility and quickness are important and if a guy can get there without having a jelly belly or losing foot speed then he is fine. The linemen on both sides have appeared too fat for about the last ten years.

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I wonder if that is something similar to the decline Bama has had in the trenches? Their guys look absolutely enormous. The past few years, they just haven't been as dominant in that area.

Scott Cochran has since moved on from Bama, but he was an offshoot of the Moffit tree.