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re: It looked like "CSU" was on some of the helmets...

Posted on 9/7/09 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/7/09 at 11:45 pm to
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It's really not a big deal at all.
certainly not a big deal, but if there is an easy fix for the future, why not fix it?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/7/09 at 11:50 pm to
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Yes, if they want LSU to continue buying helmets from them, assuming someone in the LSU AD thinks the vent hole look silly.


With all due respect, that's ridiculous. Is the helmet manufacturer going to engineer team specific helmets based on ever changing team logos? Can't imagne THAT would add to the cost of the helmets at all.

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Maybe some equipment manager person with LSU added the logo too high


Possible.

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but that logo is an important identity for our program...it should look good on the helmets


Agreed...and I'm a big proponent of maintaining brand. That being said, I'm guessing LSU chose this brand f helmet because of the kids like them based on fit, comfort, protection, etc. If LSU is concerned enough that the logo doesn't fit well on them based on the engineering of the helmet, than they can purchase helmets that are less comfotable, less well fitting, etc. Not sure how you expect LSU to dictatce helmet design based on the handful of players wearing that particular lid.

FWIW, I noticed that new helmet but did not notice the issue with it messing with the logo until you posted the pic. Even now I don;t see it as that huge a deal...
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/7/09 at 11:58 pm to
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Is the helmet manufacturer going to engineer team specific helmets based on ever changing team logos? Can't imagne THAT would add to the cost of the helmets at all.
I can't imagine the helmets are massed produced on some assembly line in China...

Is the vent hole by the L really needed?

Who makes these helmets? Maybe I will make some calls to them to get their opinion.

Yes, this is all ridiculous...just trying to change the pace of the Rant...
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:14 am to
Maybe you should call String?

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:16 am to
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I can't imagine the helmets are massed produced on some assembly line in China...

Is the vent hole by the L really needed?

Who makes these helmets? Maybe I will make some calls to them to get their opinion




Looks like Ridell based on your first pic and what I could see on their website. For some reason I wasn't able to open their product page, but I think the helmet you have a problem with the most is still the Ridell Revolution. that's the one with the double ear holes. We've been wearing those since at least 2007. The other new helmet looks to be the Ridell Revo Speed. I'm thinking they aren't redesigning them for LSU's logo...but I'd love to know what they tell you if you ask!

Ridell Helmets

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Yes, this is all ridiculous...just trying to change the pace of the Rant...


Agreed...the last few days have been abysmal.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 9:10 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:21 am to
I am a pretty observant guy, and I have never noticed the vent holes until this game...I don't think the holes were in the same place last season...I mean, look at #68's helmet...that's terrible.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:27 am to
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I am a pretty observant guy, and I have never noticed the vent holes until this game...I don't think the holes were in the same place last season...


the one you were suggesting were making it look like a "C" instead of an "L" are the older model Revolution. LSU has worn those since at least 2007. There were no changes made to the design of that helmet. Here is Hester wearing it. not suite the perfect angle, but the top left vent is clearly there in the same spot.



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I mean, look at #68's helmet


that's the new Ridell Revo Speed helmet. New design. I think it's a totally new helmet for 2009...

This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 9:10 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:33 am to
You are right...by the way, great pic of Hester...

I guess we either move the logo down some, or just stick with CSU...

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:36 am to
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great pic of Hester...


Googled it...first time I'd seen it too.

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I guess we either move the logo down some, or just stick with CSU...


Honestly, I'd never noticed it before you mentioned it! I alwasy thought the new shapes of the helmets looked a bit wonky, but helmet designs have always changed...so it's part of the sport. The new Revo speed helmet is more drastic in terms of how the logo lays on it, but even then I still see it as LSU's helmet on a new funky helmet.

And in the end, they are designed to help injuries...so if it helps one guy it's worth it.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:39 am to
Oh, I know...I still stick by my earlier statement...

that the logo is an important identity for our program...it should look perfect on the helmets.

and if there is an easy fix, I say fix it...
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 12:42 am to
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Wait...are you suggesting that they ask the helmet manufacturer to take into account the individual team logo before designing vent holes on the helmets?
Considering what the school pays for them, yes.

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but that logo is an important identity for our program...it should look good on the helmets.
I agree, I think it is a problem and should be addressed.
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:29 am to
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Maybe you should call String?


Here's his e-mail: gstring@lsu.edu
Gotta complaint, contact him.

BTW, Greg Stringfellow is NO Jeff Boss. Our game jersies don't fit properly either. The "shoulder stripe" area is too baggy, loose and bunched up. It almost looks like the shoulder pads they're using are too small and not filling up the shoulder area properly.

Ole Miss wears the same jersey style that we do and I didn't notice any of that with their jersies in the Memphis game. Didn't have these problems when Boss was here and we were into the newer style jersies with the shorter shoulder stripes in the Saban years. Those jersies looked "painted on" with none of the poor fit that we see now.

Stringfellow's also got us in pants with an ORANGE highlight stripe inside the purple and white stripes on the pants. Looks like shite.

There's about 20 different styles/designs of shoes on the field too.

So much for team unity and uniformity......



Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 6:12 am to
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BTW, Greg Stringfellow is NO Jeff Boss.


True, Jeff lived down the street from me, years ago. Great guy. RIP.........

He did help develop the Boss Shark Football Shoe...
FYI

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:42 am to
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Wait...are you suggesting that they ask the helmet manufacturer to take into account the individual team logo before designing vent holes on the helmets?


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Considering what the school pays for them, yes.


Not to belabor the point (though that's exactly what I'm going to do) but just how much do you THINK LSU pays for the helmets in question? Pick a number...I don't care what it is.

OK...now take a moment and consider the various helmet logos for all NFL teams that use these two types of Ridell helmets (who presumably spend more money than LSU and are higher profile), plus all the other high profile college teams' logos who use them.

To whose helmet logo should Riddell's R&D team engineer their helmet design...assuming of course they don't plan on engineering a different helmet for EVERY TEAM so that it looks perfect with each team's helmet logo? What you guys are asking for is that Ridddell engineer their helmet tech AROUND LSU's helmet logo...or even sillier that they do one especially for LSU. Sort of an LSU version...

My guess, and feel free to correct me if someone knows better, is that ALL helmet manufacturers make their real money on high school and lower helmet sales. The NFL and college are there to show off the new designs...their market has got to be where the sheer numbers are, and that isn't with the 32 NFL teams and couple hundred college programs. While I'm sure Riddell appreciates LSU wearing their lids in terms of helping to market their designs to high schools, I'd think there's a ZERO percent chance that Riddell would go back to the drawing board and redesign their helmet technology simply because LSU is unhappy with where the vent holes fall relative to the LSU helmet logo.

Put another way...if LSU is unahppy with where the logo falls on the new, more safe designs, they can go back to the older models (much of the team still uses them, btw) or they can adjust te helmet logo slightly to better utilize the space available.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 8:49 am to
You know, all they gotta do is either

a) Paint the holes yellow or,

b) take the helmets to the local machine press shop and have the entire L S U punched into the helmet up there.

Problem solved.

How's JLee looking?
Posted by cubsgrace
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:03 am to
I didn't notice but it looks like they need to make a slight adjustment on where they put the letters.
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:30 am to
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but that logo is an important identity for our program...it should look good on the helmets.


I agree, when our guys are lying on the feild because someone put helmet aesthetics over function, it would at least be good to get some solid branding exposure
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:35 am to
Obviously I am not saying that the function is not the top priority. The simply fix could be to move the logo down a little...or make the holes blend in with the gold of the helmet.

There aren't a lot of helmet logos like ours (eg, big lettering) on a light colored helmet.

That's it, I am calling Ridell now...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 9:49 am to
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wheres JL's helmet??


Posted by gumbeauxx
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 10:04 am to
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That's it, I am calling Ridell now...




Thanks for the levity, Chicken. You're right, the Rant _does_ need a change of pace.

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