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Is Shep's inability to play QB why LSU is in this QB predicament?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:36 pm
It seems like Shep should have been the prototypical dual threat style player to run GC's offense. I wonder if LSU actually did envision Shep as their QB of the future and got put in a jam when they realized he couldn't be an SEC QB.
Just a theory. It would explain the lack of scholarship QBs on the roster though.
Just a theory. It would explain the lack of scholarship QBs on the roster though.
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Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:38 pm to STEVED00
Who said he couldn't be an SEC Qb? He never played Qb in the SEC before, and was not going to until at least the end of next season.
He moved to WR once he realized he would not play QB until at least his Junior season, if someone behind him didn't pass him on the way. Moving to Wr makes sense because he now plays almost every down.
He moved to WR once he realized he would not play QB until at least his Junior season, if someone behind him didn't pass him on the way. Moving to Wr makes sense because he now plays almost every down.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:38 pm to STEVED00
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I wonder if LSU actually did envision Shep as their QB of the future
I doubt it
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:41 pm to STEVED00
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It seems like Shep should have been the prototypical dual threat style player to run GC's offense.
I actually think Gary has more or less molested dual threat QBs throughout his entire career.
His best years came with pocket bound QBs who threw it around a ton.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:41 pm to STEVED00
I think your theory has some legs. Here's a guy rated as 4-5 star in High School. Unable to beat out or compete with a QB who is ranked as one of the worst in the conferesnc if not in the NCAA. JJ may have good physical skills in practice, but his mental skills during the game leave much to be desired.
Shepard has shown that he is a faster runner with better instincts.
Shepard has shown that he is a faster runner with better instincts.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:44 pm to Gondor
Could he be dumb and unable to read SEC defenses? If we could teach Jamarcus surely we can teach him!
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:45 pm to OBUDan
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I actually think Gary has more or less molested dual threat QBs throughout his entire career.
I can only go off of his year with MF which was by far his most productive as a LSU coach. Flynn was able to attack defenses on the ground and thru the air.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:46 pm to LSUDonMCO
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Could he be dumb and unable to read SEC defenses? If we could teach Jamarcus surely we can teach him!
I thought JR was here under Jimbo?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:46 pm to STEVED00
The coaches are so confident in Shep's passing abilities that Spencer Ware threw a pass before Shep.
People always say Shep needs more touches, but sometimes I think going out of our way to get the ball in his hands bogs down drives.
People always say Shep needs more touches, but sometimes I think going out of our way to get the ball in his hands bogs down drives.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:48 pm to STEVED00
I think that the coaches were enamored with Jefferson's physical talents from the get go and thought that he would grow into a top-notch SEC QB, to the exclusion of any other considerations.
And, if you look at his early games last year and project where he should have gone with a reasonable amount of good coaching and game experience, it would not have been hard to envision him as a top half of the SEC QB this year, and even better than that next year.
And, if you look at his early games last year and project where he should have gone with a reasonable amount of good coaching and game experience, it would not have been hard to envision him as a top half of the SEC QB this year, and even better than that next year.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:49 pm to STEVED00
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Flynn was able to attack defenses on the ground and thru the air.
Yeah, but was he really dual threat?
He had some running ability and athleticism, but when I hear dual threat I think of Cam Newton and Dennis Dixon.
Dixon, in particular, he totally pillaged of all value.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:56 pm to OBUDan
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Yeah, but was he really dual threat?
He had some running ability and athleticism, but when I hear dual threat I think of Cam Newton and Dennis Dixon.
Well you weren't going to go out there with Flynn and your gameplan be to run him, but he enough running ability to escape trouble and cause problems for the D
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:57 pm to STEVED00
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It seems like Shep should have been the prototypical dual threat style player to run GC's offense. I wonder if LSU actually did envision Shep as their QB of the future and got put in a jam when they realized he couldn't be an SEC QB.
you nailed it....if he was the answer he would be playing. Les is snakebit at qb and it has poisoned his relationship with many, many tiger fans. let's all hope that Mett falls in love with LSU when he visits.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:58 pm to STEVED00
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I can only go off of his year with MF which was by far his most productive as a LSU coach.
not only his most productive, it was the best in LSU history
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:59 pm to LSUDonMCO
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If we could teach Jamarcus surely we can teach him!
jamarcus cant read a defense, thats why he is no longer in the nfl. at lsu, he never read a defense, his arm was so strong he would just wait for recievers to get open and then throw. he could not anticipate which recievers were going to be open.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:02 pm to STEVED00
My theory is that Miles and Crowton has made a committment to stick with JJ for some reason and moved Shepard to WR so they can use him in the offense, which they really haven't done.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:08 pm to SG_Geaux
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Well you weren't going to go out there with Flynn and your gameplan be to run him
Actually running the ball with Flynn was a definite part of the offensive game plan in '07. Flynn ran the read option very well.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:08 pm to BhamTigah
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The coaches are so confident in Shep's passing abilities that Spencer Ware threw a pass before Shep.
I think that's part of it, but also, if Shep lines up next to Jefferson, a pass by Shep is a possibility anticipated by the defense. Ware, not so much.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:11 pm to OBUDan
quote:I think so. Flynn was effective enough running to be some degree of running threat, and made some good rushes, but was more of a passer.
Yeah, but was he really dual threat?
He had some running ability and athleticism, but when I hear dual threat I think of Cam Newton and Dennis Dixon.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:12 pm to STEVED00
LSU didn't recruit Shep as a QB, they recruited him as an athlete. Basically told the kid we'll give you a shot to play QB (knowing he wouldn't be able to) but if you don't perform we're gonna put you somewhere else on the field.
So the answer to the original question is NO.
So the answer to the original question is NO.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 1:14 pm
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