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SportTiger1
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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U all brag about him at Fla.St! how many champs.'did he win?


Just 1...which is more than anybody else on the list not named Saban.

There are 110+ D1 coaches that would KILL for only 1 NC


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slimySand
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China
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
We need a statue of Coach O and make the statue 10 feet taller than Saban's.


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SoFresh
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
I would like to take this message to go ahead and thank Joe Alleva for bringing in this era of LSU Football (and Basketball as well). And scheduling this season's and the upcoming seasons' home&homes with attractive programs and destinations.

Wherever you are... Thanks, Joe!


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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Mullen is criminally underrated, Jesus.


I don't think Mullen will do much at UF.


WaydownSouth
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
I’d have him at 4.

Saban
Jimbo
Kirby

All three have been to an NC game


Damone
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
You have him ahead of Mullen, who has beaten him straight up on more than one occasion?


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redfish99
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Yep.


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slackster
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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I don't think Mullen will do much at UF.


You're probably right.

He took a 4-7 team to 10-3 the very next year, including beating LSU and winning a NY6 bowl, but yeah, I'm sure he'll flounder at UF.


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Tiger Ree
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Houston
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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What has Mullen accomplished of meaning?


Are you fricking kidding? Have you seen his wife in action? She could give Tom Herman a run for his money.

Twitter title - Mullens wife is DEFINITELY getting piped by a few players lmaooooo


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Fat Bastard
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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Some coaches recruit well and the players make them look good:
Miles, Jimbo


so all jimbo can do is recruit? holy frick son, jimbo is a great QB coach and a damn good OC mind. where have you been since 2000? watching hopscotch?



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Fat Bastard
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?


jimbo and malzahn have won HARDWARE (whether it be divisions, conferences or nattys)as OC's and HC's,

some of you are need to pull away your emotions now and be rational. O still has a long hard trek ahead. he needs to win hardware. some here seem to think O is a better hands on offensive coach than jimbo or malzahn?

better hands on defensive coach than smart or saban?

because he is not as good as those guys as a hands on does not mean he cannot turn out to be a good HC.

far too many get carried away with the HC when his assistants are doing the calling and heavy lifting. look back at les at times.


PIGSKIN
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Who else has 6 top ten wins?


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Lester Earl
Chicago Cubs Fan
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Wait you think Mahlzan is running a more successful program right now?


Fat Bastard
Atlanta Braves Fan
Member since Mar 2009
41715 posts

re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
throwing any hands on coaching out the window could he be top 3 HEAD COACH at the end of the year based on his staff and results like dabo swinney? possible.

very possible.

saban
jimbo
O/malzahn


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Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
reading comprehension is NOT your friend lester

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jimbo and malzahn have won HARDWARE (whether it be divisions, conferences or nattys)as OC's and HC's, some of you are need to pull away your emotions now and be rational. O still has a long hard trek ahead. he needs to win hardware. some here seem to think O is a better hands on offensive coach than jimbo or malzahn?


if he wins hardware then yes he can pass gus for 3rd and maybe hit 2nd in conference for most successful program at this time in SEC. who knows? see my post above,
This post was edited on 9/12 at 10:09 am


Lester Earl
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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jimbo and malzahn have won HARDWARE (whether it be divisions, conferences or nattys)as OC's and HC's, some of you are need to pull away your emotions now and be rational. O still has a long hard trek ahead. he needs to win hardware.


Again, I’ll ask you, do you think Gus is running a more successful program than O?


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Goldrush25
Washington Fan
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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Some coaches recruit well and the players make them look good:
Miles, Jimbo


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Some coaches are great at managing staff (bring in, changing and adapting, big picture guy)
Coach O


I mean not exactly a fair comparison. We know how Miles career here ended, so people naturally factor in the part where he'd grown complacent. He wasn't always that guy. Coaches go through a life cycle.

Compare that to the current coach is in the middle of a good year and has the benefit of the fan's imagination, which trumps everything in the mind of a sports fan.

Only way we can really know is where they stand when their respective careers are over. That said, this is a huge year for this current coach to make a statement.


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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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if he wins hardware then yes he can pass gus for 3rd


Gus's program is in worse shape than LSU's.


Lester Earl
Chicago Cubs Fan
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
hardware isn’t meaningful if the only thing keeping your school from firing you is a bad contract extension


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boxcar willie
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kenner
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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Saban Jimbo Kirby All three have been to an NC game



you know who else has won SEC titles and won NC's? Les Miles
you know who else ? Chizek

going by that kind of critera there are a whole lot of better coachs then Coach O. But ask yourself who you would rather have as HC of LSU right now in 2019. For me Orgeron is #2 on that list based on best fit and ability.

If you are talking about who you would rather have as a HC right now in 2019 at some other random SEC school other than LSU, then I would put coach O behind Mullen, Saban, Stoops, and Muschamp based on ability to be a good HC.

If we are talking about resumes then Orgeron would be behind Saban, Fischer, Smart and Malzhan and probably quite a few more.














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