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slackster
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
It's laughable we're trying to downplay Mullen vs Orgeron. He beat Orgeron last year, finished with the same record, and won their NY6 bowl game. Same as Orgeron, minus the head to head loss.

He beat Orgeron in 2017 at Mississippi State. He's got a much longer winning track record in this conference, and he's done so at Mississippi State of all places.

There is no shame whatsoever for Orgeron to be behind Mullen.


BlackHelicopterPilot
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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As of right now you have to put smart ahead of O.

Smart has won the SEC, got to the playoffs and made it to the NC game.



To be fair - IF we swapped LSU to the East and UGA to the West - LSU may have made it to the SECCG those years AND would have only lost to the same team UGA did (Bama).

Now, UGA has had more offense success against Alabama. This year may be the difference there

I have no issue with anyone ranking Smart above O. But, the SECG appearances and Playoff appearances are kinda happenstance over accomplishment (relative to O)


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LSUNV
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
If he wins a Championship I will be the first to crown him.


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dukke v
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Mr. Negative as always......


BlackHelicopterPilot
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At best he’s fourth, but arguably lower. Until he wins an SEC Championship and/or makes it to the NC game he cannot he ranked above other coaches who have.



You calling for MILES to return?


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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It's laughable we're trying to downplay Mullen vs Orgeron.


What about Orgeron vs Gus?

If we are using "accomplished" is Gus better? Even though O has beat him twice?


SportTiger1
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Fisher, smart, mullen and O are 2-5, but I think it's too early to tell what the order is

As of now I would say

Saban
Fisher
Smart
Mullen
O


Updating to add Mullen
This post was edited on 9/12 at 9:04 am


RogerTheShrubber
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
I'll say Saban and Fisher

The rest TBD.


SportTiger1
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Agreed...i don't care who his QB was, his turnaround at FSU was big time.

I also think we're seeing that Winston wasn't a world killer, he was just a good college QB that Fisher made look really good


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Bandits58
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
when he wins sec championship maybe.


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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Smart has to beat O on the field before he earns no 2.
So far Smart has proven to be a great recruiter.


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Damone
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
TIL ranking championship-winning coaches above non-championship winning coaches is negative


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deaux
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
No
This post was edited on 9/12 at 8:57 am


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slackster
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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'll say Saban and Fisher

The rest TBD.



If there was a national draft of coaches tomorrow, these guys would go before Orgeron -

Saban, Smart, Mullen, Fisher.

Then it's possibly/probably Orgeron.


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slackster
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
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Fisher, smart, and O are 2-4, but I think it's too early to tell what the order is


Mullen is criminally underrated, Jesus.


Lester Earl
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
No, but he’s in the perfect situation, and understands his limitations.


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RB10
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
He’s thrown his hat into the ring for 2nd place with Mullen, Smart and Jimbo. Mullen and Orgeron don’t have the hardware so it’s hard to put them above the other two, but it can’t certainly be argued at this point.


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1badboy
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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Boy some of u are really hung up on Jimbo! The ref.'s gave that game last year 3 times to A&M! U all brag about him at Fla.St! how many champs.'did he win?


lsu2006
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This is not a body of work and resume questionor a popularity question.

Today with the current activity with two games and the status of the program today

Orgeron is #2.



Can you explain?


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SportTiger1
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Mullen is criminally underrated, Jesus.


honestly i forgot all about mullen. O is behind him as of now due to sustained success (plus domniating O )


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