re: Is JJ's image beyond repair no matter what at this point?

Probably so but I do know people who have changed their view of JJ specifically due to JJ's refusal to accept responsibility.

Here comes Rudy repeating the same bull shite.

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How are you counting the pick 6's?

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Exactly what they are, just interceptions.

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I think you and I both know the main reason. JL is a great kid but so is JJ.

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To believe that racism has driven the opposition to JJ, you would have to believe that if JL had started the past 2 years and played as poorly as JJ has that the fanbase wouldn't be calling for JJ to get a chance.

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Exactly what they are, just interceptions.

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Well considering we got to come right back on the field that is a good way to pad offensive stats.

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It's one thing to suggest that Miles et al are simply wrong in their assessment of JJ being the better option, but most here seem to suggest that Miles is purposefully playing a guy who gives LSU a worse chance of success. It's beyond idiotic.

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I don't think anyone is really suggesting that. I think certain posters on this board have a fundamental misunderstanding of how bias impacts one's perception. No man is who is genuinely prejudiced actually believes that he is. Rather, such a man genuinely thinks that he is objectively interpreting the evidence and arriving at an impartial conclusion...one that merely coincides with his heart's predisposition. The moron who is a racist doesn't say to himself "I have examined the evidence and have concluded that members of other races are equal in all measures to my own. Despite this, I will ignore the evidence and proclaim my own race's superiority." Rather, the racist inteprets the emprical evidence in a skewed manner that supports his vile biases. He really believes that the evidence supports his racial superiority, even though an impartial observer would reach an entirely different conclusion based on the evidence. Now, let's apply that same principle of contorted perception to a much more frivolous realm: football. If Miles is biased in favor of JJ because of a personal affinity or a close fatherly relationship, I doubt very much he says to himself "Practice indicates that JLee is better than JJ. However, I am going to ignore that evidence and proclaim JJ the starter out of affection for him." Rather, his predisposition actually influences how he perceives the practice/game evidence. This risk is particularly acute where there is parity amongst the QB contenders and no single player distinguishes himself by a wide margin. Miles might overlook JJ's flaws and emphasizes his positive attributes. He has a skewed view of the world, but he genuinely believes that the evidence supports his biased view, even though a disinterested third party (such as another offensive coach) might reach a radically different conclusion based on the same evidence.

In any event, I think that is a much more realistic model of how bias might influence perception and judgement in practice. It is a much more difficult argument to casually disregard as being absurd. It would be risible if Miles were intentionally benching a player he knew was superior, but the prejudiced man doesn't see his own prejudice.

Now, I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea whether or not this type of prejudice is impacting the QB race. I do know that our passing offense has sucked a hog the last two seasons. It may be that we have no QB's to alleviate that deificiency. And hopefully JJ will be better this season. (If he gets to play.)

I just want the games to start. This offseason has been exhausting and full of distraction.

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I just want the games to start. This offseason has been exhausting and full of distraction.

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With this, I whole-heartedly agree.

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he'll still be an average QB though

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If he was average we would have w the NC last year...MAYBE Krags can advance him to average or better.

As far as racism I do think obviously there is some of that as in almost any fanbase but I think the majority of the people who are wanting a change are basing it on JJ's performance and lack of taking responsibility for it.

Many who are against the idea of JJ starting have posted (including myself) that they were Rohan and Tyler fans over Sparacino and Booty. I know I personally would put Rohan right up there with Hodson and Bert Jones as my all time fav qb's and Ro probably had the single most impressive season throwing the ball by an LSU qb I have seen at LSU.

Beefense I know you hate to hear it but do you really not think JJ's incredibly bad season and failure to accept any responsibility for his performance had no effect on the fans perception of him??????????

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Many who are against the idea of JJ starting have posted (including myself) that they were Rohan and Tyler fans over Sparacino and Booty. I know I personally would put Rohan right up there with Hodson and Bert Jones as my all time fav qb's and Ro probably had the single most impressive season throwing the ball by an LSU qb I have seen at LSU.

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Hammer meet nail. Thank you.